Democrats had all the leverage during the government shutdown and demanded nothing.
They had the presidency and did nothing.
But when they have no leverage they start introducing bills which they know will not pass.
Of course.
Can’t do anything, but gotta look like you’re doing something so they can use it for fodder in the next election
This is just so some Democrats can claim “supported/worked for higher worker wages” during their next reelection campaign.
Imagine begging for crumbs of your own labour from the bourgeosie imperialist democratic party
This is just for show and will end up going nowhere. If you think this has even a remote chance at changing the minimum wage then I have a bridge to sell you.
We live in a time where democrats do nothing but act appalled, corporations control politics, corporations keep getting bigger, consumer prices increase year after year, healthcare premiums constantly cost more and employee benefits keep getting more expensive every year. What gives you the idea corporations are going to let politicians triple minimum wage? If that happens it will have a ripple effect where higher paying job positions will want a raise because why should someone making an entry level wage be paid the same as a job position with a lot more responsibility?
most of them are gop that are not electable as a republican, so they become DINOS. schumer +13 other senators are likely the same, likewise with the house seats.
Not just that but if it passed it would eat into profits. We can’t have that, think of the shareholders
Profits are already eaten up by executive bonuses and salaries.
It’s regular salaries that eat into those, and that’s what they’re trying to protect.
I’m far more interested in a wage cap. Top level earner can’t earn more than 10x the lowest level earner in the company. And a it doesn’t matter the amount the wage is, if it isn’t also tied to inflation as we’ll be back fighting this fight again in short order if it isn’t. That of course is take all of this at face value, and pretending it’s not just theater.
Though overall I would still prefer people rejecting the current business structures and making employee-owned businesses the new way. Go Pirate with the whole thing, everybody works for shares. Unions/Min. Wage are just compromises from realizing the true potential and pay of the working class.
The real money is made on assets, not income
I’m not an expert, but in that case, the company just splits into different sub-companies, no? The manufacturing arm would have a CEO paid in stocks and lower level workers still make nothing.
there will never be a wage cap under this current neoliberal hellscape. the entire goal of both parties is to make money for their corporate interests
They just get non-salary benefits
That’s where the cap needs to be. There will always be someone capable and willing to take the job without the enormous pay packet. Executive pay is the biggest scam ever created.
No but you see if we don’t offer 2 million a year AT LEAST we won’t attract too talent!
It’s such a wild lie that for some reason we are all supposed to take seriously.
We all work at companies, the executives aren’t doing anything earth shattering. Most executives seem to be running the playbook of “give the customer less and charge them more to increase profits”. Wow, what innovation!
I would love for someone to be able to point out some concrete brilliant ideas that an executive actually had that went from “vague bullshit” to execution without getting worked and reworked and reworked by a bunch of normal employees until it was actually viable.
Steve Jobs made the iPhone, oh by himself, did he design the chips and write the software? Sure the vision is great, but for every iPhone there are a thousand CEOs that basically keep the lights on an already functioning company and raise the price. Oversee a rebrand. Go on the news and talk up their company.
And they’d have you believe that that’s worth 300-400x what a regular employee.
That every day they are coming in and providing more benefit than a worker does in an entire year. It’s the most obvious bullshit we’ve ever been asked to swallow
There is a value tied to the non-salary benefits. Include that in the cap.
Something something unrealized gains. I agree with you, I’m just pessimistic we’ll ever see anything remotely close to this.
I’m with you on that. It will not happen
I wouldn’t even hold my breath for 1000x
the “the 1%” meme is really anti-class consciousness, rich workers are workers, this individual literally forgot investors exist
Just do it on a per-State level. That way blue states can push their minimum wage up without having to worry about pandering to red states. There is a reason we are a federation if States.
I feel like some degree of mandatory minimum requirements established at the federal level that’s adjusted and implemented per state would be the best case scenario. Obviously minimum wage in California or Texas simply shouldn’t be the same as in Ohio or Wyoming. It really should be more reflective of cost of living of the specific location.
But also, if you leave it completely up to the states with no mandates from the federal level, enjoy seeing $7.25/hr indefinitely in places like Texas.
Introduce a bill for Socialized Healthcare too!!!
And pin it to an inflation index maybe?
Pin it to congressional compensation.
Pin it to the sum of all campaign contributions and congretional “gifts”.
Only if that includes what they make from all sources. I could see them being bribed into reducing their pay and framing it as a selfless move for bucket-crab voters. Their new owners will make the investment back as soon as employee pay gets adjusted back down.
Damn this is an amazing idea.
They would just stop increasing their comp and accept more
bribesdonations.
They pinned it to median income.
Tying it to the mean would be better. When the top 10% of earners are doing 50% of the spending, the median is useless.
Pin it to cost-of-living.
I feel like many “cost of living” type laws need to be pinned together. For example the 401k yearly contribution limit and tax brackets should be defined as a multiple of minimum wage and not raised automatically each year without it.
This thing is just theater. This is like asking for paleontological accuracy in a Godzilla movie. It’s an important detail in reality but not in these theatrics.
It will definitely increase inflation.
That thing that’s already gone up in the last 16+ years without the minimum wage doing up once?
Multiple things can cause inflation. And inflation can raise more or less.
It’s not a binary thing.
its performative for election, almost everywhere even in red states has raised the minimum wage since. remember one of the dem senators was introducing a bill about our flag, that amounts to nothing.
$7.25 in this red state…
Moving the goal posts for someone else doesn’t negate the original comment’s thesis. Raising minimum wage doesn’t increase inflation, because as we’ve seen inflation has already gone up.
Raising minimum wage (especially when tied to inflation and regional cost of living) often provides people with more spending power and work life balance. More money flows thru the economy while also allowing savings to increase. It can also cause other skilled labor jobs to see an increase in wages, and higher union attendance.
Pay people better. Don’t simp for the oligarchs.
When you lose your job scrounging up .20 cents for bread is easier than $10 regardless of inflation.
There are always doomsayers saying raising the minimum wage will do <insert economic doomsday opinion>. And over and over it’s shown to not have that effect. What it does in improve the lives of millions of people.
What’s upjohn?
Similar to updawg I’d assume.
Absolutely, but so does everything else.
Can’t wait for this to not go anywhere and have several dems finger-wag for the next several years saying there’s nothing they can do
or get in power and immediately ignore it ala biden
They can’t pass it. They don’t have majority. Now watch as they win midterms and this gets forgotten completely.
I mean, why not introduce this bill during any of the 4 years Biden was in office? Because it would’ve been actual policy, and they don’t want that. This is political virtue signaling and nothing more.
Now watch as they win midterms and this gets forgotten completely.
“We can’t pass it. We don’t have supermajority.”
They get supermajority.
“We can’t pass it. We don’t have the presidency”
They win presidential elections.
“We can’t just pass it. It has to be bipartisan or it’s bad for democracy”
They lose midterms.
I mean, why not introduce this bill during any of the 4 years Biden was in office?
bCoS wE dOn’T hAvE tHe mAjOrItY!!
It’s the usual and convenient excuse that Dems and their neoliberal fans love to use. As if not having a majority in either houses ever stopped Republicans! If the Dems are really serious as an opposition, which they aren’t, then they have to make popular choices-- the kitchen table issues. And not only that, actually impeach and imprison Trump. I think America has to go under a fully fledged dictatorship for Americans to actually know when they see one; kinda like Brazil imprisoning Bolsonaro for trying to overthrow the election, and they are not letting up at all. Because Brazil suffered from decades of dictatorship. Americans did not indict and arrest Trump because they are still arguing whether or not he’s a fascist.
Meanwhile Trump calls himself a fascist. Lol the country is filled with brainrot. Give them their reality tv or whatever the fuck it is my fellow Americans do all day. Sounds like a completely different language when I’m around my countrymen. Nothing going on in the head.
This is specifically an optics move because they can’t pass it. Make headlines about this and a few other progressive moves in the run up to November and gain votes from the “fell for it again” neolib crowd. Then “whoops, 1-3 democrat senators are just real sticks in the mud and won’t go for it so I guess we give up”. Then frustration from the base and they eventually kill whatever momentum because they prove that when it comes to action they almost always cave. Then the gop sweeps up and regresses as much as possible.
Lieberman, sinema, manchin, now its fetterman. who will be the next “this 1-3 person group personally stops any and all progress in America for like a decade”. The ones that give those dumb neolibs ammo, because of course the party would do so much if it wasn’t for them and you just have to vote more so that the 1-3 person group can become a 3-5 person group
Because raising the minimum wage when the economy was on the verge of collapse from COVID shut downs would have been idiotic?
So according to this there is absolutely nothing the Dems can do right now that would make you happy.
Cleansing itself from corporate corruption and zionism would be a good start.
You seem surprised that this is how losing trust works. If people don’t trust you will keep your promises, then it doesn’t matter what you promise them.
That being said, there are thing they can do that are not just virtue signalling.
Democrats cry minimum wage increase if they win.
Democrats cry legalized weed if they win.
Democrats cry codified Roe v Wade if they win.
Democrats cry ending the border wall if they win.
And then don’t do it when they win. And then get mad that people notice they got swindled.
Republicans sell lies and promise torture, and they deliver that. Lies and torture.
Drop all support for Iran war, pivot fundraising mechanisms away from Israeli influence, use bully pulpits and media to keep Epstein in the news cycle, direct more national funds to local DSA candidates, rotate gerontocracy out of party leadership, etc…
I don’t really mind them doing stuff like this too, though.
Yes because they are ineffective fucking liars.
At least Republicans are honest in his much they hate citizens at home and abroad. They don’t mask their true intentions of the rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer, and enabling fascists.
Democrats say they care until they get elected then say they need to work with the Republicans, then go hang out with them as they vote no on any bills that would inspire confirmce in the party or even system as a whole.
And then their brainwashed fans get mad when you can notice patterns of intentional failure across every single election. Because losing elections to Republicans makes them more money. Winning elections just allows them to vaguely stop some things but never actually make meaningful change.
Nothing they would actually do. Correct.
They could stop being Republicans in blue. But that wouldn’t allow them to have more money, so they never will.
Let me know when they fill any campaign promises from 2016.
A rational adult doesn’t get to be happy in 2026.
First day here?
Most people here it seems would rather be worse off so they can continue to bitch endlessly than have anything good happen.
Probably why half tell you voting is useless too even as primaries happen and Zoran is already in office doing things they should like.
That notwithstanding I’d like to see polling on the matter. Right or wrong I would suspect a majority would be against such a drastic increase making this a loser of an issue.
Sounds about right.
Maybe if the Dems actually die something good in power we’d be happier.
Edit: sarcasm hasn’t been active for months and is just for this, while .world is currently using alt accounts to slander instances and bridge communities. Curious…
Democrats pretend to want to do the right thing when they’re not in power.
When they’re in power, we get more than enough no votes to sink it and tonedeaf celebration of the girlboss energy of Sinema’s thumbs down.
I’m only 26 and I’ve seen this happen at least 26 times
And it’s still too low for anybody to live off of.
It would double my wages. Anything is better than nothing.
Or turn you unemployed if employment at new wage isn’t feasible.
Do you really think that wages are low because higher wages would make the businesses fail? Wages are low because businesses have no incentive to raise them in an employer’s market, that’s it. They make higher margins and keep the difference.
Both cases are possible. Wages may be low because of surplus of working force on the market (hence no incentives to rise wages) or can be result of extremely low margins at the given industry.
There can be tens of reasons why wages are poor, and rising minimum pay solves the issue only in some cases
Of course, there will be edge cases of industries that have not improved their margins over the years. But the fact that prices follow inflation, and wages do not, is enough information to generalise that businesses are just greedy as fuck.
Most of the past history of raising minimum wage/payroll taxes/employee benefits has been immediate outcry by business groups over how all business is going to go bankrupt/the sky is falling followed by change that a year later has business chugging along mostly the same as it was prior to their catastrophizing. It’s not really surprising that employees who are able to spend more, spend more.
Yes. This wont work without taxing rich properly
This is one of those ask for 100 so you can negotiate down to 50 kind of things isn’t it? Or just a pretend attempt to look good when it’s obviously rejected.
It’s a pretend attempt lol
No, it phases in over a few years.
You’re saying that as if it passed and will be going into effect. This will absolutely not pass if the 15 an hour that’s been attempted constantly over the last decade hasn’t.
Yes to both probably
How DARE they Show voters what to Expect if PROGRESSIVES win a Majority!
-People who will DISAPPEAR after the Midterms!
It’s a great move and these are bills that need to be introduced frequently by dems right now. When people say “Yeah, but what can they do”. This. This is what they can do. Introducing these messaging bills for republicans to vote again and then grand standing on how republicans won’t do anything to help the working class.
But dems must follow through. Minimum wage is the prefect example of where they should follow through. Attach it to a budget bill and when the parliamentarian says “not allowed” tell them to F off and push it through anyways. Just as the republicans have already done several times since they took control. Or blow up the filibuster. Either is an acceptable act for when dems get power. But they must deliver.
If dems operate like they did in Biden term 1 or Obama term 1, they’ll be sunk in 2032.
Pretty much. I’d love to see a party actually have balls. Ever when the Dems are in the majority they just circle jerk each other.
We are fortunately seeing some of this with the gerrymandering bills. The absolute right messaging came from AOC when asked about the Virginia redistricting “We have a bill on the table to resolve this very problem but Republicans refuse to support it. If they hate this, they can feel free to vote to stop all gerrymandering”.
gerrymandering likely will hurt GOP more than it helps them since they already area at the limit of doing it, and starts affect thier districts.
most of them are gop-lite dinos, like schumer, hakeem, slotkin, and a dozen others
They could do something about pedotus any fucking day they want. Any day. Yet…
I’ll believe it when I see it and maybe not even then because it’ll get struck down by the Supreme Court or something.
Good. Things. Don’t. Happen.
How can anyone survive on ~$7.80/hr? That is modern day indentured slavery.
