• boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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    17 hours ago

    …no? It isn’t. He doesn’t have to support anyone else in order to not support Twitch.

    Him alone supporting or not supporting Twitch means absolutely nothing for Twitch, but quite a bit for his viewership. Just moving one creator off the biggest platform accomplishes nothing.

    The only reason that doesn’t already exist is because Big Tech doesn’t want it to

    And I don’t see a universe where Big Tech is going to change its’ tune either unfortunately.

    Or even look at the current state of podcasts and just apply that logic to streaming.

    Basically every podcast is available on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, some of the major ones also on YouTube. How’s that different from streaming?

    Once again, chicken and egg. There will never be content somewhere else until someone puts it there.

    And I’m saying there’s no point unless it’s a coordinated effort. A single creator being unavailable on Twitch changes nothing, except that single streamer’s visibility. It would have to be a ton of people streaming outside of the mainstream platforms for people to forget about Twitch.

    That’s because they only have DRM-free content, which means they have ~1\1000th of Steam’s library, if that.

    Aye, but even games they DO have, they sell less than Steam, despite offering a technically superior product (DRM-free).

    Personally I don’t buy from them because they don’t support Linux/Proton

    Their website runs fine on Firefox on Linux and you can use any number of utilities to run games with Proton and manage prefixes, such as Bottles, umu, etc. Heroic even provides a unifying launcher for GOG and a few other windows-only stores. Are you saying the convenience of the more proprietary platform is keeping you from using the less proprietary one? You can see how it’s the same for 99% of humanity and corporate streaming services, right? The competing service needs to win on multiple points to overcome the convenience and familiarity of the existing.

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      16 hours ago

      Just moving one creator off the biggest platform accomplishes nothing.

      We’ve already discussed several times precisely how it does. If you don’t agree, that’s fine, but you can stop repeating the same nonsense over and over.

      And I don’t see a universe where Big Tech is going to change its’ tune either unfortunately.

      Not as long as people like you continue to advocate against it.

      Basically every podcast is available on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, some of the major ones also on YouTube. How’s that different from streaming?

      Because they’re also available without them. And YouTube does not have podcasts.

      And I’m saying there’s no point unless it’s a coordinated effort. A single creator being unavailable on Twitch changes nothing, except that single streamer’s visibility

      Brother you can’t just start at 5 million. Everything starts at one. Fortunately there are already hundreds, but none of them as influential as the mayor of NYC.

      Their website runs fine on Firefox

      I don’t care about their website. I want a client where I click a button and the game launches.

      Heroic even provides a unifying launcher for GOG

      It only works like 10% of the time. While Steam works 99%. Even when it works it doesn’t support a bunch of features that GOG desktop does.

      Are you saying the convenience of the more proprietary platform is keeping you from using the less proprietary one?

      No I’m saying one supports free operating systems and the other doesn’t.

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        53 minutes ago

        We’ve already discussed several times precisely how it does. If you don’t agree, that’s fine, but you can stop repeating the same nonsense over and over.

        Okay, tell me how many people are going to stop using Twitch because one single streamer streams elsewhere?

        Not as long as people like you continue to advocate against it.

        Yes, I’m the reason big tech wants to make more money, not because they like making money.

        Because they’re also available without them

        Yes, and this stream is also available on platforms that are not Twitch. Similarly to how everyone still gets their podcasts off Spotify or Apple Podcasts because those have all the podcasts, everyone will still stream on Twitch if all their other content is still on Twitch too.

        And YouTube does not have podcasts.

        Sure, YouTube doesn’t have podcasts.

        Brother you can’t just start at 5 million. Everything starts at one. Fortunately there are already hundreds, but none of them as influential as the mayor of NYC.

        And which app or website can you go to to see all of those hundreds in one place?

        I don’t care about their website. I want a client where I click a button and the game launches.

        So you want convenience and it’s worth more to you than your game being DRM-free. This is literally why every game dev still sells on Steam instead of delisting and going exclusively to GOG and itch. And it’s why nobody who streams will take their stream off Twitch. Because of people like you, who want the convenience of going on Twitch and just clicking.

        It only works like 10% of the time. While Steam works 99%. Even when it works it doesn’t support a bunch of features that GOG desktop does.

        You don’t NEED any features other than “launch game”. Some apps I can suggest for this: Konsole, alacritty, cosmic-term

        No I’m saying one supports free operating systems and the other doesn’t.

        But GOG supports free operating systems. The client is completely optional and it came several years after the website which supports every modern browser and OS. Not supporting free operating systems is an imaginary issue you’re making up to justify NOT LEAVING THE CONVENIENT CORPORATE PLATFORM THAT HAS ALL YOUR CONTENT IN ONE PLACE. If you really cared, you could also run the GOG client with Wine just like you run the games themselves.