• Graymouzer@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Accuser makes it sound like he was not found guilty of rape. If Trump is not impeached the US will be rightly viewed as an autocratic banana republic.

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      I feel like we blew past banana republic a while back and are onto deciding whether we’re a nation of laws at all anymore. The idea that the US is a democracy is laughable.

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          to be fair, the amerikkkan version of democracy has always been corperatocracy or christocracy… never was or ever will it be real democracy

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            How do you people write that without cringing yourself to death? It’s like tweens writing Micro$oft. Waow you really showed em with that original twist in the name

            For the record, I hate this place as much as you - if not more.

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        sure it is, poors get one set of laws and rich get the other, as is tradition for the “roman model” of governance

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          Elections are not the defining trait of democracies. Technically they are not even a requirement. This is why plenty of autocracies can actually have a ton of elections.

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            Elections are not the defining trait of democracies

            Obviously, he meant free and fair elections, not show ones in dictatorships. Legitimate elections define democracy.

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              I agree, but again. Elections are not even technically required. There are democratic decision making structures that don’t rely on election of representatives or voting. Specially on direct democracies, it’s but one of the many ways to ensure the prevalence of democratic values.

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          Oh, we’ll have elections.

          They are just trying to decide how convincing they can get away with making it look like a free and fair election without letting it actually be free and fair.

          Putin for example has decided that 88% support is “close enough” to a free and fair election… for now.

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            how convincing they can get away with making it look like a free and fair election

            I believe all elections in the US going forward will be putin style elections, the rethugs will just issue a decree that the supreme leader won again and this time he going 95% of the votes. All hail king turd

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      You think Congress has the power to enforce an impeachment even if they rule that way? We’re beyond banana and full mango.

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        Frankly, the continuing inaction to do nothing at all to even admonish the administration for openly corrupt behavior turning everything into a personal benefit for trump is depressing even if someone implemented ‘other methods’.

        As bad as Trump is, it’s more worrying that no one is even vaguely willing to go along with ousting him. The handful of GOP that was even vaguely on the fence has been ousted at this point. Since the supreme court has ruled that openly politically aligned and outright racist districting is ok, and challenges about each state’s districting are only ever valid if the challenge would strike down a democrat plan…

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      Accuser makes it sound like he was not found guilty of rape

      He wasn’t. It was a civil lawsuit. He was found liable.

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        Guilty and Liable are just different legal words for different kinds of cases, but they both mean the same thing:

        HE DID IT!

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      He was found liable not guilty, and if you don’t understand the difference you should read instead of commenting.

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          Pull the fingers out of your ears and accept the free Middle School vocabulary/ civics lesson.

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        Guilty and Liable are just different legal words for different kinds of cases, but they both mean the same thing:

        HE DID IT!

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          He definitely did it, but liability is not guilt and you shouldn’t say such ignorant things in public.

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              Really, I think the current state of the world is the result of idiots proliferating. People who don’t understand the difference between liability and guilt, for example.

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            fighting the good fight for the rapist pedophile, are we? you should be so proud of your good deeds, good character, and integrity

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              Nope, I’m fighting the good fight against ignorance. I already said he totally did it.