“What happened?” are you for real?
Did you not read any newspaper, watch any news, or generally exist in society since 2016?
First you decided to bazooka yourselves in the foot with the Brexit vote, then went through a revolving clown show of increasingly bizarre political sideshow pieces that pretended to be PM, before finally opting to negotiate an EU exist that was about as disastrous as it could’ve been for your economy.
Add in the fact that the entire world has been turning to shit around you due to despotic leaders trying to rape their neighbours/the climate/populace/actual kids/everything joined by a cabal of evil billionaires who are gleefully destroying democracy and the world economy so they can go out in one final last hurrah of capitalism, and you have the audacity to ask “What happened?”?.
I seriously can’t with these “I don’t do politics” idiots anymore.
I’d say a good 50% of people are not paying attention to current events/politics, then 40% who follow somewhat but don’t really understand as they lack the critical thinking skills necessary to actually process the information and end up parroting the talking points of their preferred media, and then finally 10% who realize just how fucked everything is.
There’s a lot of people who are only just now figuring out what the rest have been seeing happen for years, decades. Many of them are still in denial about how bad things have already gotten.
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It’s less than 10% because some of those that are able to comprehend what’s happening are the ones who made it happen and/or are rooting for it like nothing else they’ve ever done. This is exactly what many want, them being on a high horse as many as possible never even getting the chance of dreaming of that position.
Eh at first glance I’d almost lump most of them in with that 40%, but I also have a hard time comprehending anyone of proper intelligence being that maniacal, so yeah I suppose you’ve got an excellent point. That said, most MAGAts I see in the real world are just on the bandwagon, heck most of the ones I meet can barely rub two brain cells together regarding politics to the point I have a small level of sympathy for just how stupid they are.
i don’t, stupid people are an anchor, frankly the bottom 20% should loss the ability to vote. BUUUUT!!
They get UBI. (and nothing small, like 20-30K pegged to inflation or something, something BIG like that.)
since they wont be represented in the voting spectrum any more, but they still are important for operation of the country and labor and frankly, we all know some dumb ass that we like or love. we wouldn’t abandon them. but they don’t posses critical thinking skill so they should get a dif societal task, acting as our strongest consumers or creatives, they could even save and start a business, remember a lot of business people aren’t geniuses like engineers or scientists. we would totally be fine it we locked it to the bottom 20% (or whatever ratio would actually work, this is more of a generalization.) and i don’t think we would get into any situation where that 20% lost voting rights would creep up, thanks to the new UBI anchor keeping the gov from having to pay more people, and the remaining 80% of people would be more likely to see though bullshit, especially now that the bottom 20% are disenfranchised from it. they won’t peddle nonsense for these bad actors.
I could understand the idea in theory, but it could never be implemented in the real world without bias or manipulation. Look at the current administration, they’d simply deem anyone other than MAGA mentally incompetent to cement their power (like shoehorning TDS into the next DSM release). On top of which, the UBI you suggest would never be enough to actually live on or even be supplementary, further impoverishing those subject to it (see the current problems with SSI). Companies in lower income areas will simply raise prices since there is more money to be extracted.
Realistically we need a drastic overhaul of American society that tips the scales back to the people, but at this point I dont know how that could be achieved since 20% will screech communism and vote against it.
no they don’t live off it, ubi isn’t something you live off of, you have a job with it as well. after all, society requires everyone to chip in for things to work, as the current brake down were all experiencing has shown what happen when people don’t pay their fair share.
and yes, bad acting partys that use and manipulate these people will throw a fit, if this were to happen even if we say reduced that threshold of exclusion to the bottom 10%, this is more what i meant about me generalizing, the idea is thta we shave off the bottom and pay them money in exchange for theyre vo-!!
hay, how about this instead, what if we added an option to the ballets to get the UBI for a year OR choose who to vote instead of forcing people out.
Living in a democracy and saying “I don’t do politics” is like being a human that doesn’t do water
I seriously can’t with these “I don’t do politics” idiots anymore.
This, its like when corps say there not evil they are amoral. Yah, you don’t care whats going on around you.
Your amoral = You have no morals = You are a bad person because you don’t care what happen to the average man from your own actions or others.
Remember, folks: if you saw someone shoplift food? No. You didn’t.
Now imagine every tenth customer starts stealing.
Now the company has to increase prices to compensate for the loss of profits. We all start paying for the shoplifters, ridiculous, right?
But who are we really protecting by paying more, though? The shoplifters or the company? Who’s REALLY the parasite here? The rich company or the person forced to steal?
EDIT because I might’ve not made my point clear - if we eliminate the company and replace it with public services, there would be noone to take profit and thus no need to hike the prices.
Privatization is evil. The idea of profit is parasitic.
We all start paying for the shoplifters, ridiculous, right?
A good argument for reducing inequality through higher taxes.
or at least we would be able to hold the gov accountable for any bad behavior on theyer part, unlike a corp.
As someone who stole from the supermarket all the time in college, I just wanna say that the need is starting to foment in recent times for me. The social contract is growing cracks now that I can’t see retirement and financial stability in my late 30s.
I consider it a public service to steal from businesses that destroy local economies, engage in union breaking and lobby against basic human rights.
Nobody should have to pay for food ever.
Absolutely agreed, but steaks?
If you think the rich should be able to choose how the poor eat I would counter that the poor should choose whether the rich eat at all.
Do you think people born to a higher position deserve a better quality of food based on their birthright?
Do you think people born to a higher position deserve a better quality of food based on their birthright?
If you go down that path, why not give cows the birthright to live?
Because the deer that the wolf kills to eat it doesn’t give the deer a right to live.
We’re animals too. We just happen to be better and more efficient at killing our prey.
Then why not prey on human labour and take as much as cheap food can offer? Let humans work for a cheap ration of corn. It can’t get much more efficient.
They’ve been doing this for the last 15 years, people steal them and sell them in pubs. Premium steaks are not feeding world hunger.
How much can someone reasonably make from doing this? I feel like it would still end up being around minimum wage, if not under.
How the fuck would I know?
Exactly! You don’t. Your comment seems to imply that they are either getting disproportionately high income from reselling premium steaks (i.e. “not feeding world hunger” = only one person benefits from a large sum of money), or that that the income is very low (i.e. “not feeding world hunger” = you’re not making enough money to feed yourself), but the latter doesn’t make sense because any positive non-zero amount of money will get you more food than zero money. I don’t know if I’m missing another interpretation.
But also the beef and cattle industry has been quietly and carefully raising the price of beef, and especially steak, ever since the pandemic and hoping no one would call them out for their blatant price gouging.
Part of this has been framed as “steak is a luxury item and so we can price it out of the reach of the poor”. Pair that with government programs silently removing steak as a buyable item on food stamp and public food programs.
Meanwhile the cattle industry has been posting all time record high profits for the last 5 years.
It’s much better to avoid beef anyway, carbon cost is very high
On the other hand maybe meat is an extreme, unsustainable privilege that’s inherently based on torturing/murdering animals and destroying the planet.
That sounds like something meat would say. You just don’t want us eating meat because you are made of meat lol
