• omarthemediocre@lemmy.zip
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    9 days ago

    Yeah, but the robot can be set to recognize only based on the training data (majority of people would be ok if their work is used when training only for recognition purposes) the problem is the production when the same data set is used to produce images/video. Here it matters what the robot has been trained on. Model that never “seen” picture of pikachu will not be able to reproduce pikachu (For example Firefly by Adobe) Model that has pikachu in its training data will reproduce pikachu even if you don’t use the name pikachu but just describe what pikachu looks like. And that is only part of the problem with original characters (many being done by small authors who don’t have the means to sue companies behind those models) Second issue I see is the AI companies using the training data as a free buffet, even though out of all the sources - electricity, compute, training data the training data are the most valuable - no matter how much electricity and compute power you have, your model cannot exist without training data. Yet no one is paying for those training data anything (again, unless you are big publisher that is able to threat the companies and make a licence deal). All the companies behind those models are for profit companies yet they are using any loophole in the system to pay as little as possible and exploit work of others.

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      9 days ago

      Generators are recognizers. Like how speakers and microphones are the same mechanism, backwards. ImageNet was only a classifier for a couple thousand single-word labels. Dall-E used the same approach to walk an image toward those labels. That’s how you get “avocado chair.”

      Yet no one is paying for those training data

      They don’t have to, because training is transformative. It’s fair use. If permission is not a factor, why would money be required? Your rights are not a loophole. This is fine for the same reason you’re free to reference, parody, or quote commercial works guarded by flesh-eating lawyers.

      Even a vegan model trained on bespoke data could reproduce trademark-infringing characters. If you can describe what Naruto looks like, the model only needs to know what anime means.