• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I am going to go out on a limb and say alcohol was involved. If that many sober adults were present, one would have pulled out a phone to record it. Seriously though. RIP, and best hopes for those kids.

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    1 day ago

    Not “The Ohio River” but “AN Ohio River, namely the Scioto”. Two different rivers.

  • SailorFuzz@lemmy.world
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    “After I almost drowned, I decided I would never again be weaker than water, so I became a lifeguard. On my first day of training, my instructor told me that there are going to be times when you’ll see someone in trouble. You’re going to want to rush in there and do whatever you can to save them, but you have to stop yourself. Because there are some people you can’t save. Cause those people will thrash and struggle, and try to take you down with them.”

    — Ana Spanakopita, BoJack Horseman

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      Great for moody television, but that seems like horrible advice for lifeguards lol

      I know there’s a phenomenon of a drowning person flailing and bringing the lifeguard down with them, but I’m not sure you can tell from the shore that that’s gonna happen

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        you won’t be able to tell, but at least when I was taught ages ago, they advised to call out verbally before approaching, and then circle around to approach from the back to prevent them pushing you under in an attempt to draw a breath. and that’s after trying to find other ways to save them than getting in yourself

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          Reach, throw, row, go is what we were taught when I was a kid.

          Use a stick or something for them to grab if you’re close enough

          Throw something buoyant attached to a rope to tow them back

          Row out in a boat and use a paddle/buoy/life jacket for them to grab and tow them back, especially if in a canoe, they’ll capsize you trying to get in.

          Finally, if nothing else works, go and do the stuff you said

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          When I lifeguarded we were taught to protect ourselves as well. Not just approach cautiously but physically keep people from drowning you and be able to stay out if reach when necessary.

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            19 hours ago

            I was told it was okay to knock someone OUT if it meant saving their life and protecting your own.

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        You’d also think that a lifeguard would be specifically trained to work with this, and also equipped with some floatation device to help

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    That’s really tragic. I can’t even imagine how horrible it must have been for everyone involved.

    Like, I know I can’t swim for shit, but I also wouldn’t be able to just watch someone drown.

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      Trying to save a drowning person is incredibly dangerous, a panicking person will grab on and flail and pull you under until you are too exhausted to stay afloat yourself, even if you are a strong swimmer.

      That said…I don’t think I would be able to just stand and watch either, even knowing the above.

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      Paradoxically, this kind of stuff makes me kind of glad I’m a terrible swimmer. Like, I would never jump into a river to save a drowning person but at the same time I don’t have to feel bad about it because I know that I wouldn’t be able to help that way, and instead of one casualty you’d just have two.

      (I would of course try to call for help, look for ways/tools to pull them out etc.)

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      how is that possible? i know zero people who can’t swim and i live in a country with no access to the sea or anything.

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          This is America. We have a significant number of people that can’t read and words are everywhere.

          Some of that comes with welcoming those from other countries. We are a nation of immigrants. The drowning victims in this case were from Honduras. I feel for the children. They likely lost both their parents in this drowning.

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        Lots of people never learn. I only learned because the apartment complex behind my house as a kid had a pool and my friends and I would hop the fence and use it. Some kid pushed me into the deep end one day and I learned real quick.

        Now as an adult, we’ve put our kid in swim classes but that wasn’t something our families had the resources to do when we were kids. My wife still doesnt know how to swim.

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        I can swim, but not good enough to rescue someone else, and definitely not in a stream.

        I have a weird lack of buoyancy in my legs that makes it extremely exhausting just to keep myself affloat, so I never bothered pursuing it further.

        I do know how to float, but it only works in salt water. I can however easily dive to the bottom of any pool without effort, so I guess I’ve got that going for me.

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          I’m also someone who can’t float so swimming is exhausting for me. If I ever have to swim to save my life I’m pretty confident I would die. I stay away from water.

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        Different countries handle it different ways. Growing up in the UK (Rivers, Reservoirs and being and island) and Qatar (surrounded by the Sea on 3/4 of its mass) swimming lessons were mandatory all the way to High School. I know of a school in Dagenham that continued swimming classes back in 1990’s, but saying that, a lot of governments tend to axe shit left and right so I’d be surprised if it’s still a thing. I still remember the detol smell of washing your feet before getting climbing into the pool in some schools.

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    As far as I know there’s not a strong current in that area either. It’s the O’Shaughnessy Reservoir. According to another article there was a “language barrier” which around here is probably Spanish speakers but honestly could be any nationality. There is a strong Asian community nearby and a ton of others.