The sales of the glasses have been better than their VR headset which has really made them double down on the glasses as they see big potential. That said, I really think that it is a false hope as I suspect the market that is ok wearing Facebook glasses are small, but loyal.
Most countries it’s legal to record in public, as there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy. Though these are a bit different than say someone with a phone or camera, as unless you pay close attention the glasses are easy to miss…
These glasses cams are small enough to no longer be visible as a camera.
I’m all for freedom to record outside but this is a step too far as this is not me making a video for me, this is Facebook using idiots to record the world 24/7 for them.
I’m fine with humans recording humans, immnot fine with companies recording me
I disagree. Secretly recording someone with a phone is much easier than doing it with one of these. It’s the same issue people had with Google Glass back in the day.
I think the reason it feels creepier is because, if you’re talking with someone that’s wearing them, it feels like they’re sticking a camera in your face.
But like I could turn on my phone camera, leave it sticking out of my pocket, and record everyone taking a piss in a public restroom with nobody noticing. If I tried to do that with glasses, I’d have to turn my head towards everyone’s cock, one at a time. The neck pain alone makes it not worth the effort.
But to be clear, fuck Meta. These glasses should be banned for many other reasons.
Agreed. My friend has a pair of the meta glasses and i didn’t even realize they were meta glasses until he told me. The camera isn’t very noticeable unless you know what you’re looking for.
I’m not the original commenter, but in Germany, you can record in public, but can not record individuals specifically. People walking past in the background while you record something else is fine. Recording someone specifically is not.
That’s the baseline, at least. Exceptions may apply (public figures, public interest, etc).
A succinct statement of the German law can be found in the following judicial statement from the Marlene Dietrich case: the general right of personality has been recognised in the case law of the German Federal Court of Justice since 1954 as a basic right constitutionally guaranteed by Articles 1 and 2 of the Basic Law and at the same time as an “other right” protected in civil law under § 823 (1) of the BGB (established case law since BGHZ 13, 334, 338—readers’ letters). It guarantees as against all the world the protection of human dignity and the right to free development of the personality. Special forms of manifestation of the general right of personality are the right to one’s own picture (§§ 22 ff. of the KUG [de]) and the right to one’s name (§ 12 of the BGB). They guarantee protection of the personality for the sphere regulated by them.
What’s the different between that and everyone having their phone’s out all the time, those little guys are already able to spy on, you know they do stuff other then record stuff right, they get text readout on the lenses and stuff right? Also can you not read, I specificly wrote I wouldn’t getting because of their bad reputation.
Edit: whoosh the fanbois are out there! We don’t share the same value if you think it’s ok for 10 years old to become gambling addicts because of Valve’s practices.
I deleted my Reddit account because it is increasingly becoming an echo chamber cesspool of extreme centrism. I was hoping Lemmy would be somehow better with people more prone to discuss. Ho, well
How are they shitty. You can’t claim their bad without explaining why, I think you just don’t like the fact some people actually respect a company rather then hate on them like the rest.
Now I’ll wait for you to apologize and and acknowledge you did not have any idea of what you were talking about before commenting. I’ll let you throw day, so you can go through the entire series.
Selective reader I see, another reason why you were disliked on reddit to the point you felt the need to move on, I’ll assume this goes for a lot of other places as well based on your disposition when talking with not only me but others on here.
Go paint some minis and find a new 4chan dude, only place you’ll fit in without an atitude adjustment.
Maybe just maybe it’s because it’s not as black or white as you make it seem? Especially talking about a company that did so much for Linux and looking at what their competition is doing…
I never said it’s okay. All I’m saying is that a mega-corporation can simultaneously exploit psychological loopholes for profit (loot boxes) while actively pushing open-source ecosystems (Linux), providing great value to consumers and fighting other pc gaming monopolies (Microsoft). Look at the whole picture.
Do you consider that it is morally acceptable to push thousands of kids into gambling addiction because you are doing more than Microsoft for Linux in the gaming world?
Look, you are not necessarily wrong in holding the opinion that Valve’s monetization practices are so horrible, that they ruin the company’s entire reputation. It’s a valid moral boundary. But at the end of the day, it’s just an opinion, not some objective law of the universe and other people can weigh the scales differently without being an evil person. Yet you portray it as the TRUTH. And it’s a bit ironic, that when people disagreed you started talking about echo chambers and attacking the community. This is why you got downvoted.
I agree with you, but I get where the rabid fanboyism is coming from. The lack of competition in tech due to a variety of bullshit reasons (mostly corruption, look what Biden’s FTC was trying to do compared to Trump 2’s mask-off approach) have people pissed off and angry at the monopolists. Valve just so happens to be the least-bad monopolist in tech, so people like them.
People need to get competition-pilled, so they realize that Valve isn’t our savior, and are in fact part of the problem too. They might be considered “good” today, but that’s because our standards have never been so low.
I get why people like Valve so much (I like some of their services too) but there’s too much deification. It’s like “oh mighty Gabe!”. I get some of it was tongue-in-cheek a bit initially but it seems so many people take it seriously.
They’re a company that provides some services I like but the gambling shit is bad especially when you see people on YT talking about how they were lured in when they young and how much money was lost and how many streamers were running scam companies. It’s not good.
The sales of the glasses have been better than their VR headset which has really made them double down on the glasses as they see big potential. That said, I really think that it is a false hope as I suspect the market that is ok wearing Facebook glasses are small, but loyal.
These things should not be protected property. If you assault my privacy, I should be allowed to attack back.
Most countries it’s legal to record in public, as there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy. Though these are a bit different than say someone with a phone or camera, as unless you pay close attention the glasses are easy to miss…
These glasses cams are small enough to no longer be visible as a camera.
I’m all for freedom to record outside but this is a step too far as this is not me making a video for me, this is Facebook using idiots to record the world 24/7 for them.
I’m fine with humans recording humans, immnot fine with companies recording me
I disagree. Secretly recording someone with a phone is much easier than doing it with one of these. It’s the same issue people had with Google Glass back in the day.
I think the reason it feels creepier is because, if you’re talking with someone that’s wearing them, it feels like they’re sticking a camera in your face.
But like I could turn on my phone camera, leave it sticking out of my pocket, and record everyone taking a piss in a public restroom with nobody noticing. If I tried to do that with glasses, I’d have to turn my head towards everyone’s cock, one at a time. The neck pain alone makes it not worth the effort.
But to be clear, fuck Meta. These glasses should be banned for many other reasons.
Agree with you for the most part.
Though your example of a public toilet is a bit flawed, since there IS a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Google Glass was waaaaaaaaaay more obvious.
Where the meta ones are a little less so.
Depending on lighting, and distance from the Glasshole, could be really hard to spot the Meta ones.
Agreed. My friend has a pair of the meta glasses and i didn’t even realize they were meta glasses until he told me. The camera isn’t very noticeable unless you know what you’re looking for.
Not in my country.
Coolies, care to elaborate
I’m not the original commenter, but in Germany, you can record in public, but can not record individuals specifically. People walking past in the background while you record something else is fine. Recording someone specifically is not.
That’s the baseline, at least. Exceptions may apply (public figures, public interest, etc).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_rights#Germany
theres probably exceptions to it like recording admittance of a crime, or a crime situation happening
Thats not the same as generally recording the public. Or rven pointing your camera at people as you move through a public space.
Not my country and i doubt most of the EU.
There’s a difference between walking by a film crew and some rando filming you whithout you even knowing.
You have no assumed privacy in a public space. How long is it going to take people to learn this.
Depends where you are.
Germany, for example, has laws that make it illegal to record people in public doing things that could embarrass or demean them.
Japan made google throw out their original streetview data and do it again with a shorter pole so that it didn’t look over people’s fences.
Different countries have different laws.
hold still sir I am not done recording your luscious lips
can I touch every inch of your body with my eyes in public? stand still please
I’ve seen some amazing POV footage from them, because the lens is actually in line with your eye level.
So, a lot of the market would be people who would otherwise use a GoPro.
…your talking about what I’m thinking right? I’m not just a massive pervert right? Please 😅
Mostly people riding bicycles off the side of mountains.
yahknow, if it wern’t for the fact that i know they’re a scummy company, i’d try them.
Why? Are they useful for anything other than proping up surveillance state?
What’s the different between that and everyone having their phone’s out all the time, those little guys are already able to spy on, you know they do stuff other then record stuff right, they get text readout on the lenses and stuff right? Also can you not read, I specificly wrote I wouldn’t getting because of their bad reputation.
Like a gopro for sports
Nope
just wait patiently for valve to make some
… Spoiler for you, but Valve is a shitty company.
Edit: whoosh the fanbois are out there! We don’t share the same value if you think it’s ok for 10 years old to become gambling addicts because of Valve’s practices.
I deleted my Reddit account because it is increasingly becoming an echo chamber cesspool of extreme centrism. I was hoping Lemmy would be somehow better with people more prone to discuss. Ho, well
How are they shitty. You can’t claim their bad without explaining why, I think you just don’t like the fact some people actually respect a company rather then hate on them like the rest.
Already done and don’t assume nothing of me.
i can see why you are banned, posting misinformation/disinformation with nothing to back it uo with.
https://youtu.be/v6jhjjVy5Ls
Now I’ll wait for you to apologize and and acknowledge you did not have any idea of what you were talking about before commenting. I’ll let you throw day, so you can go through the entire series.
it’s been like that for years, you act like valve was the masterminded the gambling sites, crazy.
Ho, so because it’s been like that, it’s ok?
Edit: don’t even bother answering, you’re a clown.
Selective reader I see, another reason why you were disliked on reddit to the point you felt the need to move on, I’ll assume this goes for a lot of other places as well based on your disposition when talking with not only me but others on here.
Go paint some minis and find a new 4chan dude, only place you’ll fit in without an atitude adjustment.
Maybe just maybe it’s because it’s not as black or white as you make it seem? Especially talking about a company that did so much for Linux and looking at what their competition is doing…
So it’s ok for you to have 10 years old developing a gambling habit and potentially ruining their live, because hey they are pushing Linux in gaming?
Sounds to me like a parenting issue, not a valve issue.
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Did valve create the gambling games you mention?
Yes.
I’m curious as to which ones you’re talking about.
I feel like you’re straw-manning here.
I never said it’s okay. All I’m saying is that a mega-corporation can simultaneously exploit psychological loopholes for profit (loot boxes) while actively pushing open-source ecosystems (Linux), providing great value to consumers and fighting other pc gaming monopolies (Microsoft). Look at the whole picture.
Do you consider that it is morally acceptable to push thousands of kids into gambling addiction because you are doing more than Microsoft for Linux in the gaming world?
It’s not.
Look, you are not necessarily wrong in holding the opinion that Valve’s monetization practices are so horrible, that they ruin the company’s entire reputation. It’s a valid moral boundary. But at the end of the day, it’s just an opinion, not some objective law of the universe and other people can weigh the scales differently without being an evil person. Yet you portray it as the TRUTH. And it’s a bit ironic, that when people disagreed you started talking about echo chambers and attacking the community. This is why you got downvoted.
So you’re saying that since a company is reprehensible in one area, all their other accomplishments should be judged accordingly?
Makes sense to me.
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I agree with you, but I get where the rabid fanboyism is coming from. The lack of competition in tech due to a variety of bullshit reasons (mostly corruption, look what Biden’s FTC was trying to do compared to Trump 2’s mask-off approach) have people pissed off and angry at the monopolists. Valve just so happens to be the least-bad monopolist in tech, so people like them.
People need to get competition-pilled, so they realize that Valve isn’t our savior, and are in fact part of the problem too. They might be considered “good” today, but that’s because our standards have never been so low.
Things can be, and should be better.
name your top 5 good companies
I imagine you’re focused on for-profit companies
Irrelevant.
I get why people like Valve so much (I like some of their services too) but there’s too much deification. It’s like “oh mighty Gabe!”. I get some of it was tongue-in-cheek a bit initially but it seems so many people take it seriously.
They’re a company that provides some services I like but the gambling shit is bad especially when you see people on YT talking about how they were lured in when they young and how much money was lost and how many streamers were running scam companies. It’s not good.
Lol
Ngl, I can see an use for AI assistant glasses.
If it weren’t for the payload.