A very compelling narrative, thank you for sharing! Based on my limited understanding of history and economics and sociology, it feels true. But I’m no expert :)
The one point that I don’t really understand is:
It is not possible to work, or be compelled to work outside of society. Until we have socialism nothing compels us to work outside of social classes. I wouldn’t be working if my bourgeois didn’t compel me to.
This doesn’t make sense to me. My functional definition is that work is just expending energy to transition something from one state into another. Moving a boulder up a hill is still work, regardless of motivations of the actor. How are you defining “work”?
You can read more about it in “socialism: utopian and scientific” by engels an eye-opening book to me. Really what made me fall in love with marxism. There’s also a really cool section about the “mark” at the end which isn’t that relevant to know really but I found it very interesting nonetheless. It’s a short book but well worth the read.
As for “work” I guess you can go with the physical definition of it, however since we are talking about society i went with a more common understanding of work as in energy spent to produce value. Making that concrete however gets us of course into the weeds of what value is, differences between use-value and exchange-value. So I just tried to sneak it past you 😅
A very compelling narrative, thank you for sharing! Based on my limited understanding of history and economics and sociology, it feels true. But I’m no expert :)
The one point that I don’t really understand is:
This doesn’t make sense to me. My functional definition is that work is just expending energy to transition something from one state into another. Moving a boulder up a hill is still work, regardless of motivations of the actor. How are you defining “work”?
You can read more about it in “socialism: utopian and scientific” by engels an eye-opening book to me. Really what made me fall in love with marxism. There’s also a really cool section about the “mark” at the end which isn’t that relevant to know really but I found it very interesting nonetheless. It’s a short book but well worth the read.
As for “work” I guess you can go with the physical definition of it, however since we are talking about society i went with a more common understanding of work as in energy spent to produce value. Making that concrete however gets us of course into the weeds of what value is, differences between use-value and exchange-value. So I just tried to sneak it past you 😅