Screenshot of this question was making the rounds last week. But this article covers testing against all the well-known models out there.

Also includes outtakes on the ‘reasoning’ models.

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    15 hours ago

    The most common pushback on the car wash test: “Humans would fail this too.”

    Fair point. We didn’t have data either way. So we partnered with Rapidata to find out. They ran the exact same question with the same forced choice between “drive” and “walk,” no additional context, past 10,000 real people through their human feedback platform.

    71.5% said drive.

    So people do better than most AI models. Yay. But seriously, almost 3 in 10 people get this wrong‽‽

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      3 hours ago

      3 in 10 people get this wrong‽‽

      Maybe they’re picturing filling up a bucket and bringing it back to the car? Or dropping off keys to the car at the car wash?

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      4 hours ago

      At least some of that are people answering wrong on purpose to be funny, contrarian, or just to try to hurt the study.

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      14 hours ago

      It is an online poll. You also have to consider that some people don’t care/want to be funny, and so either choose randomly, or choose the most nonsensical answer.

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        12 hours ago

        I wonder… If humans were all super serious, direct, and not funny, would LLMs trained on their stolen data actually function as intended? Maybe. But such people do not use LLMs.

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      10 hours ago

      I saw that and hoped it is cause of the dead Internet theory. At least I hope so cause I’ll be losing the last bit of faith in humanity if it isn’t

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      Without reading the article, the title just says wash the car.

      I could go for a walk and wash my car in my driveway.

      Reading the article… That is exactly the question asked. It is a very ambiguous question.

      *I do understand the intent of the question, but it could be phrased more clearly.

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        Without reading the article, the title just says wash the car.

        No it doesn’t? It says:

        I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

        In which world is that an ambiguous question?

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          5 hours ago

          Where is the car?

          This is the exact question a person would ask when they to have a gotcha answer. Nobody would ask this question, which makes it suspect to a straight forward answer.

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        Mentioning the car wash and washing the car plus the possibility of driving the car in the same context pretty much eliminates any ambiguity. All of the puzzle pieces are there already.

        I guess this is an uninteded autism test as well if this is not enough context for someone to understand the question.

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          Understanding the intent of the question *and understanding why it could be interpreted differently *\and understanding why is it is a poorly phrased question are not related to autism. (In my case)

          I want to wash my car. No location or method is specified. No ‘at the car wash’. No ‘take my car to the car wash’ . No ‘take the car through the car wash’

          A car wash is this far. Is this an option? A question. A suggestion. A demand?

          Should I walk or drive? To do what? Wash the car? Ok. If the car wash is an option, that seems very far. But walking there seems silly. Since no method or location for washing the car was mentioned I could wash my own car.

          Do you see how this works?

          Yes, you can infer what was implied, but the question itself offers no certainty that what you infer is what it is actually implying.

          • Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Look, human conversations are full of context deduction and inference. In this case “I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?” states my random desire, a possible solution and the question all in one context. None of these sentences make sense in isolation as you point out, but within the same frame they absolutely give you everything you need to answer the question of find alternatives if needed.

            Sorry for the random online stranger diagnosis but this is just such an excelent example of neurodivergent need for extreme clarity I couldn’t help myself.

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          Understanding the intent of the question *and understanding why it could be interpreted differently *\and understanding why is it is a poorly phrased question:

          There are 3 sentences.

          I want to wash my car. No location or method is specified. No ‘at the car wash’. No ‘take my car to the car wash’ . No ‘take the car through the car wash’

          A car wash is this far. Is this an option? A question. A suggestion. A demand?

          Should I walk or drive? To do what? Wash the car? Ok. If the car wash is an option, that seems very far. But walking there seems silly. Since no method or location for washing the car was mentioned I could wash my own car.

          Do you see how this works?

          Yes, you can infer what was implied, but the question itself offers no certainty that what you infer is what it is actually implying.