Case was seen as major test of the first amendment and whether the US could use broad anti-terrorism statute to prosecute leftwing protesters

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    When your own government has it’s boot on your throat, fighting back is not terrorism. Sheesh! That should be obvious.

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    Meanwhile pro-ICE protester/influencer Jake Lang got caught trying to pick up what he thought was a 15 year old girl.

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    Song faces a minimum of 20 years and a maximum of life in prison, according to the US attorney for the northern district of Texas. Arnold, Evetts, Morris, Rueda, Batten, Elizabeth Soto and Ines Soto each face between 10 and 60 years in prison. Sanchez Estrada faces up to 40 years.

    Just out of curiosity, has the DOJ ever gotten around to charging anybody in the Epstein files other than Maxwell? Bc there’s like millions of files.

    Like even just one single pedophile? Just to make the streets a little safer? Surely if they can make all this complete bullshit stick they can make something from those files stick, right?

    I’m sure they’re more than motivated and will be getting around to it soon. It’s only been 14 months and they probably just got a little distracted.

    They had to take care of the much more dangerous members of a made up organization. Now that that’s all cleared up and out of the way, I’m sure the hammer of justice will be swift for all those names that show up over and over again in those files…

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        I’m sure it will be any day now. As soon as they get Antifa off the streets. Priorities.

        Not like they’re going to try and rebuild the justice system and all of society so that eventually everybody but the pedophiles ends up locked away…

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    If they are going to process you as terrorist anyway, then you might as well make moves that are worthy of the label. After all the only real difference between a freedom fighter and terrorist is the narrative.

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          Well akshually - as a German who paid attention in history class:

          1. killing Nazis was an act of necessary self-defense to accomplish anything. A precondition, if you will
          2. what worked out pretty well was the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan and especially the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification - I will be forever grateful to the Allied Forces for getting this right. It made Germany the least fascist nation in Europe for well over 60 years.

          The long lasting effects were not permanent, unfortunately. I might like to ask for another allied victory over Nazi Germany soonish, with a new Denazification. Except there are no “Allied Forces” left that stand against Nazism :( And I am not trying to be dramatic, this is actually fucking with me for the past 10 years or so.

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              The problem is your country got nukes and the largest conventional military in the world - we couldn’t help you out even if we wanted to. :(

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                  I am so devastated for the İranian people :'-( On the one side butchered by their regime, and on the other they are getting bombed by a pedo-criminal bunch of rapists and murderers trying to distract from their corruption.

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                There might be an opportunity after we blow through the missiles and drones over the next few years if a debt crisis wrecks our economy.

                Not holding my breath, but the future is uncertain.

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    The prosecutor said, “They’re here because they ambushed a cop.” WTF?!?! Well then, on Jan 6th a mob of fucking MAGA terrorists ambushed a lot of police officers.

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    This is not surprising, given the current state of the US. What’s surprising is how fast they were able to turn on their own patriotic narrative to just become submissive to it all.

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    There shouldn’t be a law against terrorism. Real terrorism already involves serious crimes (murder etc.). There should not be a law defining “being a terrorist” as illegal.

    “found guilty of support for terrorism” is bullshit.

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      Do you think they classified the IRGC as a terrorist organization so that they can have a pretense for going after critics of the war?

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      And all those concentration camps they’re building aren’t just for immigrants.

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          Yeah, if they were “just for immigrants” they wouldn’t be any less bad. They’re horror made real either way, which is the main reoccurring reality of what’s happening.

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    Whatever side you’re on, this is worrisome. Today it’s Antifa, tomorrow it’s the Tea Party etc.

    Weapons can be repurposed as new parties take power endlessly until finally some sane group of souls has the decency to legislate away malicious prosecutions based on politics.

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      US has been doing the exact same shit to leftists ever since the founding of USSR, this is not new. Sadly the tea party people have nothing to worry about.

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      First skin ‘im. Then drag through the salty sand out into that salty gulf.

      Of course I don’t approve of violence. But if you’re going to do something, do it right.

      Edit: all things just harmless shit talking of course.

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    Cant they use jan6 as a counter example? How does bondis statement have credibility based on her Epstein performance. Did a quick read but doesn’t this stuff lead to civil war?

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    They pointed to the fact that the demonstrators took steps to prevent their cell phones from being tracked.

    Prosecutors also pointed to the way that the protesters used Signal, a widely-used messaging application, as evidence of their coordination and conspiracy. The protesters used pseudonyms on the app and had messages autodelete, an increasingly common practice among protesters and journalists who are concerned about government surveillance. They also emphasized the defendants were wearing all black during the protest, sometimes describing it as “tactical” gear.

    That just describes my normal non-protest day. The fuck is this?