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    It’s naive to think that the USA is just like any other country when they are doing shit like bombing schools, raping and burning kids. The genocide of the native americans alone was put at around 55 million, which already exceeds any number you’ve given. But the murders and evil brought on the world in the last 100 years would likely exceed all of them put together. And lets not pretend that the US doesn’t benefit from the spanish conquests with the amount of territory it stole from mexico and the neocolonization of latin america.

    But then there are also the genocidal campaigns across africa, looting the people and enslaving them, korea where they threw bombs in the sea because there was literally nothing left to bomb? Burning entire villages alive in vietnam, raping and butchering (The only thing unique about the My Lai massacre was that it had a whistle-blower), the torture prisons of Guantanamo and Abu ghraib (which included raping children infront of their mothers). What you’re country did in Jakarta?? What its currently doing in Gaza?? In Sudan??

    I know your hollywood slop like Game of Thrones would have you believe that this is just how war is but I assure you this is a very euro-american evil. What’s naive is to think that the current state of the world is just how it’s always been, and that there isn’t empire that controls almost every corner of the globe. The existence of your country makes me doubt gods.

    Edit: this is a yankee bomb your colony pissrael fired yesterday

    There is no genocide, major war and only a few war crimes in the last 80 years that can’t be blamed on your country. The You Piss A’.

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      22 hours ago

      Numbers 31:17-18, the text states: “Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.”

      That’s ancient man talking about killing everyone in a village, except the little girls they take as rape slaves. But sure, America invented evil and I suppose scaphism, the wheel, quartering, the burning bull etc were all American inventions, apparently.

      It’s nice you’ve found your boogieman though. An unslayable monster that if only it was slain peace would return to earth, and when wars did happen they would be very orderly and polite and obey those Geneva conventions.

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        ut sure, America invented evil and I suppose scaphism

        go fuck your strawman, sound yourself with some hay for all I care

        Ohhh all those people were raping and murdering too so its ok if we do it on an industrial scale!! Barbara Pit for all of you

        Holy shit literally the next comment you post was crybullying about uyghurs, the complete lack of self-awareness on you people is just stupefying.

        We are the most evil people on earth but chyna chyna chyna dont look at our crimes, dont look at gaza, sudan, iran, look at the uyghurs, look at them, here satellite images of buildings, now imagine whats going on in there!!! Its probably like abu ghraib or guantanamo but uhhh oriental, so even scarier!

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          Ohhh all those people were raping and murdering too so its ok if we do it on an industrial scale!!

          You might want to learn what a strawman is since I never said it was “okay”. I said it was a fact of life, dumb fucking idiot.

          Is your big “revelation” that America does evil? No shit genius. Anyone with eyeballs can see that. Do you want a fucking trophy or maybe next you can describe to me how the sky is blue???

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            Yeah it seems like a big revelation to someone who literally wants to deploy ICE abroad!!! You know, the thing that started this chain??? And whats the point in bringing it up as “a fact of life” if not to distract and downplay your regimes genocides and evil?

            Is your big “revelation” that humans have been killing other humans for a long time? No shit genius. Anyone with eyeballs can see that. Do you want a fucking trophy or maybe next you can describe to me how the sky is blue???

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              21 hours ago

              I never mentioned ICE.

              And yeah, that does seem like a revelation to you considering I was responding to “lmao your yankee propaganda has you convinced that everyone is just as murderous as your stromtroops” this sentiment, by pointing out that yes, historically human history has always been violently, murderously evil, and it’s not some novel American invention.

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                The person at the very top did, anything I say was in response to that, like “oh you said a really obvious truth in response to an incredibly ignorant statement” what even are you trying to do here?

                “lmao your yankee propaganda has you convinced that everyone is just as murderous as your stromtroops” this sentiment, by pointing out that yes, historically human history has always been violently, murderously evil, and it’s not some novel American invention.

                I have to explain to you what a comparison is? Your country was an inspiration to the literal nazis and recruited and put into power literal fucking nazis. Your country is on the same level of evil as the nazi regime, are you gonna go with “Being a nazi is just human nature, it’s always been like this”, because it would be an incredible self-own.

                Which means, as Whitman notes, “that American racial classification law was much harsher than anything the Nazis themselves were willing to introduce in Germany.”

                This is what I’m talking about. The actual things your regime did not some abstract “oh killing bad” concept, but the material reality of what the united snakes of amerikkka.

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                  Yeah, America is as bad as the Nazis, I agree, and we learned it from the British, who learned it from others. Being a Nazi isn’t every humans nature, but the basic blueprint of the Nazi is as old as civilization, so it is definitely part of human nature.

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                    21 hours ago

                    This isn’t news either

                    not every exasperated petty bourgeois could have become Hitler, but a particle of Hitler is lodged in every exasperated petty bourgeois.

                    L. Trotsky

                    and why did you feel compelled to bring that up? What were you hoping to convey? And why is this always brought up in the context of people pointing out how the total sum of american evil is beyond comprehension but when people say the tiniest nice thing about china suddenly the wee-ghur wee-ghur alarms get sounded?

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      Great, nobody is arguing USA is a warmonger they def are. I’m simply saying violence will never end. Long after the USA is nothing but a memory, humans will still destroy eachother in any number of imaginable ways. You seem to be arguing that without the USA the entire world would just simply start holding hands and all murder/violence instantly end. You keep trying to bring this back to “USA BAD”… well no shit. Keep crying.

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        23 hours ago

        You seem to be arguing that without the USA the entire world would just simply start holding hands and all murder/violence instantly end.

        complete strawman. This whole chain started with you wanting to make ICE other countries problem as well

        Keep crying.

        “yeah we are the most warmongering nation that will blow up, burn and rape kids. Keep crying about it lol”

        I’m starting to come around to the

        “i wish no harm to the american ruling class, my enemy is the american people”

        school of thought tbh