Europe has survived 3 energy shocks in 4 years. The only way out is to stop buying power from its enemies | Fortune
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Oil above $100. Gas prices up 70%. Every crisis has a different trigger—and the same vulnerability. Europe must become the world's first Electro-Continent.
  • Kkk2237pl@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Yup, but in Poland there are still small fraction of evs…

    Renault is government company, why they dont want to sell evs cars cheaper? Is it really necessary to make bigger profit than from ice?

    • Renohren@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      2 days ago

      You meant Renault? They made the Zoe back in 2014, then made the Megane only electric, made the Spring through their Dacia subsidiary, now the 5, and they are launching the new Twingo generation as only electric. This makes them cover all EV segments, from the sub 20.000 euro electric car to the 60.000 one through alpine. They use more and more European made batteries and motors. Out of all the European car makers Renault and Mercedes are the ones that are the most pro electric now.

      • Kkk2237pl@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 days ago

        Yup, but why electric model is more expensive than ice one? Because of government subsidies?

        • Renohren@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          2 days ago

          The new twingo is the exact same price in constant euros as the first gen twingo that came out in 1993.

          Besides that, prices of EVs are not more expensive over 5 or 10 years despite the shown price because you run them at a much much cheaper price : electricity is often cheaper than gas, the only real cost you would have to pay is tires and shock absorbers, breaks pads and disks get used a lot less because of regen, no belts or chains, no spark plugs, no oil change, no exhaust, no turbo, no belts driven AC, no starter motor, no alternators etc… All those things that cost a lot in mechanic repairs for most cars.

          • Kkk2237pl@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 days ago

            Citroen ec3 was 2x more expensive than ice version…

            European evs are ridiculously expensive in comparison to for example Tesla

            • Renohren@lemmy.todayEnglish
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              2 days ago

              Tesla’s start at over 30.000 euros! That’s not a cheap car by no means!

              Plus: there is a huge problem at the top of Tesla. It’s not the subject here but I cannot close my eyes on Greenland’s fate just for a car. I have the same reservation over Tibet or the Uyghurs for other brands.