My bad I was just looking at the prize pool from those old TI tournaments ($12 million). And my information is outdated. Suffice to say a larger audience doesn’t mean a better game. In my experience, for every big pop culture phenomenon in history, there’s always been a better version of it which goes underappreciated because it appeals to a smaller audience base. Most of the LoL or FPS player base is just a little bit too stupid or impatient for Dota 2, so they can’t handle the two year learning curve
Definitely. I haven’t done the study but sometimes you don’t have to. Some games just have a more difficult learning curve than others. Like the average IQ of chess players is higher than that of your average checkers player. But more often I think it’s a matter of lack of patience. That’s why Dota games are getting shorter - to appeal to the shorter attention spans of our generation
The only way a dota player would be smarter than a lol one would be if:
The game actively reinforces or weakens IQ, an argument I think we both agree is stupid.
Smarter people choose dota and dumber people choose lol. A point that sounds plausible on the surface until you realize that nobody “chooses” a multiplayer game like that. They choose a game for it’s asthethics, whether you have friends that play it, its popularity, etc… Not because one has trees and the other doesn’t.
Like the average IQ of chess players is higher than that of your average checkers player.
Stupid argument, there is no concrete proof of that. They are very different types of games with very different goals and a different target audience. That would be like comparing CS vs Dota. Lol-Dota have very few meaningful core differences.
In a competitive game, the energy you don’t put thinking about where your courrier is, you put elsewhere, it does not go unused. The learning curve isn’t important when everyone puts in thousands of hours anyway. It takes you a week max to learn the basics of both games anyway, what does it matter if dota requires an extra day?
My bad I was just looking at the prize pool from those old TI tournaments ($12 million). And my information is outdated. Suffice to say a larger audience doesn’t mean a better game. In my experience, for every big pop culture phenomenon in history, there’s always been a better version of it which goes underappreciated because it appeals to a smaller audience base. Most of the LoL or FPS player base is just a little bit too stupid or impatient for Dota 2, so they can’t handle the two year learning curve
Whether its a better game or not is subjective.
Crazy statement. Do you seriously think dota players are smarter than any other game in any way?
Definitely. I haven’t done the study but sometimes you don’t have to. Some games just have a more difficult learning curve than others. Like the average IQ of chess players is higher than that of your average checkers player. But more often I think it’s a matter of lack of patience. That’s why Dota games are getting shorter - to appeal to the shorter attention spans of our generation
The only way a dota player would be smarter than a lol one would be if:
Stupid argument, there is no concrete proof of that. They are very different types of games with very different goals and a different target audience. That would be like comparing CS vs Dota. Lol-Dota have very few meaningful core differences.
In a competitive game, the energy you don’t put thinking about where your courrier is, you put elsewhere, it does not go unused. The learning curve isn’t important when everyone puts in thousands of hours anyway. It takes you a week max to learn the basics of both games anyway, what does it matter if dota requires an extra day?
This is a silly argument, but it looks like they did the study already and the two games are basically tied for first haha
https://www.whichbingo.co.uk/news/which-gamers-are-the-smartest/
1000 people is nothing, I wouldn’t put much faith in that. But yes, the numbers are close to what I’d guess.