And 4 years on, I still can’t figure out whether it’s because of neurospiciness or divergent interests. Linux? 471 communities. Writing? 2 and the mods of the second one abandoned their accounts years ago
Maybe it’s because even within the fediverse, there are too many people who agree to satirized positions unironically. i.e. Lemmy is just a little too diverse for most satire.
In certain ways, maybe. I can’t see eye to eye with some people on what constitutes a genocide, for instance. But there comes a point where it’s apparently either satire or a an objectively crazy user. It’s equally apparent who this split Is apparent to, on this open source communist Linux forum.
It’s my personal belief that lemmy at large is simply too experientially limited to recognize online satire outside of incredibly specific examples. Mostly meme templates. And there’s nothing wrong with that, but it is a little frustrating for me, personally.
Neurodivergents being overrepresented likely accounts for some of the tendency of people mistakenly taking things literally on Lemmy. But I think a bigger issue is just a lack of media literacy. People tend to close themselves off from opposing viewpoints, and what does filter through is often exaggerated or otherwise misrepresented to make it easier to ridicule. This pattern leads people into thinking something intentionally absurd is in fact serious. Poe’s law is something easy to observe on other platforms too, but it’s worse on a platform with an especially political and nondiverse userbase.
Lemmy is still a relatively young community. I bet it gets better with time. I like to think that I already noticed small (and healthy) community growths.
And I do not have a metric nor an example. This is super vague, I know.
A lot of users came here to boycott reddit. Taking this kind of action is quite hard when it comes to dopamine sources like reddit. The users that migrated have at least in common that they overcame the reddit pull and also took the time and energy to land in a lemmy instance. I’m curious what Lemmy will look like in 5 to 10 years with this kind of “user starter” on the “lemmy agar”.
Lemmy does satire all the time, you’re just not reading it.
The problem that you are trying to identify is that satire needs to actually be satirizing something, ie, the context must be clear, and many people just assume the context in their head is the same as the context in everyone else’s heads.
You can see this illustrated by all the sarcasm that your comment has generated.
Satire in text form isn’t as simple to pull off as in visual media. Body language and tone matter a lot. As well Poe’s Law is in full effect anymore and someone having this view is actually not rare.
All of which this platform will be oblivious to, because Lemmy just doesn’t do satire.
Lemmy hates the shit out of satire lol
And 4 years on, I still can’t figure out whether it’s because of neurospiciness or divergent interests. Linux? 471 communities. Writing? 2 and the mods of the second one abandoned their accounts years ago
Maybe it’s because even within the fediverse, there are too many people who agree to satirized positions unironically. i.e. Lemmy is just a little too diverse for most satire.
In certain ways, maybe. I can’t see eye to eye with some people on what constitutes a genocide, for instance. But there comes a point where it’s apparently either satire or a an objectively crazy user. It’s equally apparent who this split Is apparent to, on this open source communist Linux forum.
It’s my personal belief that lemmy at large is simply too experientially limited to recognize online satire outside of incredibly specific examples. Mostly meme templates. And there’s nothing wrong with that, but it is a little frustrating for me, personally.
I’ve gotten considerably more replies here than on Reddit from people who don’t understand sarcasm.
Pretty sure it’s the tism.
Neurodivergents being overrepresented likely accounts for some of the tendency of people mistakenly taking things literally on Lemmy. But I think a bigger issue is just a lack of media literacy. People tend to close themselves off from opposing viewpoints, and what does filter through is often exaggerated or otherwise misrepresented to make it easier to ridicule. This pattern leads people into thinking something intentionally absurd is in fact serious. Poe’s law is something easy to observe on other platforms too, but it’s worse on a platform with an especially political and nondiverse userbase.
Damn autists, taking everything literally
No, you must be thinking of kleptomaniacs
No, no, that’s “literally taking everything,” but now we’re getting into the realm of dyslexics
Yes, we are all very serious here. Yup. No funny business going on. Just us and our incredible seriousness. Sooo serious.
Oh thank god its not just me.
Lemmy is a big guy.
For you
Lemmy is still a relatively young community. I bet it gets better with time. I like to think that I already noticed small (and healthy) community growths.
And I do not have a metric nor an example. This is super vague, I know.
I don’t know. Lemmy’s majority user is former reddit users and even at the size reddit is now, sarcasm would constantly go over peoples’ heads
I’m pretty sure it’s because most of the people here are on the spectrum.
A lot of users came here to boycott reddit. Taking this kind of action is quite hard when it comes to dopamine sources like reddit. The users that migrated have at least in common that they overcame the reddit pull and also took the time and energy to land in a lemmy instance. I’m curious what Lemmy will look like in 5 to 10 years with this kind of “user starter” on the “lemmy agar”.
Lemmy does satire all the time, you’re just not reading it.
The problem that you are trying to identify is that satire needs to actually be satirizing something, ie, the context must be clear, and many people just assume the context in their head is the same as the context in everyone else’s heads.
You can see this illustrated by all the sarcasm that your comment has generated.
Now that the context is clear.
Satire in text form isn’t as simple to pull off as in visual media. Body language and tone matter a lot. As well Poe’s Law is in full effect anymore and someone having this view is actually not rare.