brb… need to go send an email from the WC

THE KERNEL OF TRUTH 🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧

Lmao, if only

You’re clearly not who I’m talking about then.

I’ve used various distros as daily drivers for over 20 years. Debian-based is comfy for me. So is the terminal, but I’ll use a gui if it suits the situation. If I need a software package I install it in whatever way works, whether that’s building from source and fighting through dependencies, composing a docker image, unpacking a static .deb or clicking ‘install’ on flat hub. I’m aware of the differences, and issues folks have, and I have my own preferences as well, but I mostly just don’t care. It’s all free (gratis) software, which I’m glad even exists. If it’s truly libre, even better, I’m all about that. Given 2 functionally equivalent packages I’ll always pick the most libre one. At the end of the day, I don’t feel the need to run an ideologically pristine system. I need it to work.

I clearly touched a nerve, lol, but there’s no need to get defensive.

These people exist, I run into them here and elsewhere. one of them just replied to my comment.

I do not use Windows

No, no, no - this is all wrong. I don’t consider you a person unless you self-flagellate at the terminal daily, compiling from source in dependency hell while being cleansed by the vim fires at the altar of Tux.

This species of Linux user reminds me quite a lot of Catholics.

I honestly don’t even think the lawmakers thought this far, after reading the bill myself. I’m cautiously optimistic that this will end up in the courts, hopefully dying there.

Makes me wonder where the language came from, and who is looking to benefit. People in here are saying parents are, and there is a “parent’s rights” contingent - this is convenient red meat for them - but smells like just more anti-competitive bs, the newest attempt at regulatory capture from microslop.

Needless to say I’m disappointed to see this coming out of CA.

I think this might result in 3rd parties springing up as liability shields?

Sure, for a low price I’ll be your “OS Provider”

Yep, and good luck figuring out who the “os provider” even is at that point.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, (and ianal) but the language in the bill is incredibly loose. I would not be surprised if this thing gets poked full of holes, and I’m not even that creative.

With a FOSS OS, the local systems administrator would be considered the OS provider

Would they though? I only skimmed the bill text, but I think it might be hard to determine who is the “OS provider”, who is the “store” and who the “developers” are in the case of FOSS.

It doesn’t require a numerical age but rather an “age bracket” that the user provides during setup (<13, 13-16, 16-18, 18+) which must be “made available” to the “store” and the store must have a mechanism for picking up that “age signal” (lol).

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, (and ianal) but the language seems incredibly loose. I would not be surprised if this thing gets poked full of holes and worked around (if it doesn’t end up being tied up in court first.)

It would be hilarious if distros could just provide age bracketed ISO downloads for the under 18 brackets and say that the download of an ISO is part of the setup.

January 1st 2027 per the bill text https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1043

Parents who view their kids as property

01.01.1970

“beyond the cloud” 🤮

Yeah I’d imagine you’d have trouble finding a good deal there. I’ve had way more luck getting drives from eBay, thrift shops, yard sales and the local dump.

Also by convincing everyone I know to just give me their old stuff that they think is no longer useful. They don’t want it taking up space anyway, and I get to harvest the useful bits and add them to my frankensteined home lab, then responsibly dispose of the rest. There have also been several machines I’ve acquired this way that I’ve repaired/made whole again, then provided to those who need them.

Buy used ETA: and prevent waste

I meant from individuals, not corporations with a profitable refurbishing outfit. e.g.: eBay, thrift shops, the swap shop at your local dump (if you’re lucky to have one), yard sales, etc.

One of my favorite things in life is rescuing hardware from the landfill, or bringing a relative’s dusty old machine back to life. There are still loads of people out there who have never opened a PC case before, and think the whole machine is a loss just because it won’t boot, or is “old”.

You think he changes his own diaper?