Mama told me not to come.

She said, that ain’t the way to have fun.

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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • I think there could be more to it. Louis Rossmann had personal issues with the lead dev there a year or two ago due to how they interact in their forum, and I think he had some great reasons to be concerned. Since then the lead dev has stepped away as project lead, but I doubt the bad blood is completely gone.

    I think it’s a bit suspicious that they don’t mention what feature(s) FUTO wanted. Given their interaction with other projects, I’m guessing they wanted a “supporter” badge for people who have bought the software (no change in functionality other than the badge). I’m guessing also that due to their interaction with Rossmann, they’re uninterested in clarifying, esp. if it would put FUTO in a better light if they did.

    Then again, maybe FUTO is a bunch of scumbags. It just seems the slant against them is so much stronger than the actual negative impact from a handful of repos having source-available licenses instead of FOSS licenses.


  • My read is that FUTO as a software movement is totally fine, it does what it claims on the tin. The people behind FUTO are a different story, and the main person bankrolling it seems to have friends with odd views (I think they’re blown out of proportion, but they’re still concerning).

    You’ll never find a perfect movement. Here’s what FUTO seems to prioritize:

    • local first alternatives to big tech
    • source availability, but in a way big tech can’t use but home users can
    • profitability for devs without coercion or feature gates

    That sounds pretty good to me! I’d prefer it to be FOSS, but allowing me to distribute modifications for non-commercial use is probably good enough for most things.

    I probably disagree with their founder politically, and I’d run FUTO differently, but I think their software is good and I could maintain it myself if needed, and at the end of the day, that’s what matters to me.

    FUTO doesn’t seem interested in getting involved in politics, they’re merely musing philosophically, and their products aren’t profitable, so it doesn’t really matter to me what their political positions are.




  • Wow, that’s awful.

    Ours is getting more diverse too, and my town has a really affordable recreation center ($5/visit or $15-30 per month, depending on single vs couple vs family). We have pretty good diversity when we go, and we bring some diversity ourselves. It’s just that there isn’t much diversity to go around in my town.

    Growing up, swimming just wasn’t on the list of priorities for many minorities. They tended to recreate with others in their minority group, so black kids would play basketball, baseball, or football, Hispanics would play soccer or baseball, etc. My black and Asian friends would play video games, but that’s just my weird nerdy friend group.

    Maybe the culture comes from racism though, idk, but it certainly seems that way in your area. I think it has more to do with role models, there are tons of black athletes in football, basketball, and baseball, but not so many in swimming.


  • Huh, I see almost no black people at my local pool. Then again, my town is like 90% white as well. But even in the town where I grew up that was a bit more diverse, black people just didn’t go to the local pool, probably because you had to pay to get in and black people (in general and from experience) don’t seem to like to swim. Even at my in-laws apartment complex which has a pool, there’s almost nobody there, ever, and when we go, it’s always just me. People seem to hang out more at the entrance to the complex than inside the complex.