• TheOctonaut@piefed.zip
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    8 days ago

    Weird how democracy and even socialism can exist in other countries that don’t need to keep guns around toddlers?

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      8 days ago

      There are also countries where the population are armed and don’t have the same issues (Switzerland, Finland, Greenland, Germany). The US really is the worst of both worlds: an armed populace with no culture of gun safety & training.

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          7 days ago

          Most people in the US do not have guns, either. But the people who do, tend to have a bunch. This is what drives up that ownership rate. They’ve turned it into their personality.

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            7 days ago

            It’s weird how averages work for both countries. It’s not like one average is more indicative than another.

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            And they ones who do that are typically right wing and see its use as reasonable discourse. There’s a difference from someone owning a gun because they like to target shoot and see it as a tool as opposed to those who see it as a way to express their power openly.

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                7 days ago

                i wish. I’ve got like 60 living relatives on one side of my family who all have at least three firearms.

                and like, living out in rural anywhere out here, three firearms is reasonable. a handgun for 1-5 feral hogs, a long gun for 30-50 feral hogs, and a shotgun for 30-50 feral geese.

                then you gotta have spares and a child for reloading. why do you think their families so big. Gran was 2 of 11.

      • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.org
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        8 days ago

        At least Switzerland and Germany is nowhere NEAR the same level of citizens being armed as in the US. This is a disingenuous comparison.

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          At least Switzerland and Germany is nowhere NEAR the same level of citizens being armed as in the US.

          Switzerland kinda is though. They usually don’t have ammo though

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            7 days ago

            At best households will have a rifle, as you say, with no ammo and a handgun (but only for men that were officers IIRC).

            USians have arsenals at home. Not everyone of course but still.

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        Germany is extremely harsh on gun control, even by European standards