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    This is not a praise of trump because any president has full power to recognize genocide and ban all weapons to Israel but facts show the intensity of the genocide is slower during Trump. The way you minimize the Gaza issue show that you never cared about Palestinians.

    During Biden

    70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed 92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed 80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water. 75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/01/1158741

    https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2024/gaza-is-in-ruins-after-israels-yearlong-offensive-rebuilding-may-take-decades
    https://www.dezeen.com/2025/01/22/gaza-housing-92-per-cent-destroyed-damaged-un-report
    https://unosat.org/products/4130
    https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/devastating-lack-shelter-exacerbates-risk-harm-palestinians-gaza
    https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/verification-damages-schools-based-proximity-damaged-sites-gaza-occupied-palestinian-territory-update-9-may-2025 https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/gaza-destroying-agricultural-lands-and-blocking-food-aid-israel-uses-starvation-weapon-war-against-civilians-enar

    If the same pace continued like during Biden, there would be nothing left in Gaza. Kamala said she would not change anything in Biden’s gaza policies.

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      I guess if you can’t win an argument, you just make up the motives of your opponent.

      This issue and Democratic infighting is basically the only obvious way that MAGA stays in power for the next two elections.

      You make pronouncements from a fictional moral high horse, while doing way more damage to people you claim to support than if you just just sat home and did nothing. Nothing moral in that.

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        It is you who have not a single real argument. Opposing genocide is some fictional moral high horse? Actually the fictional moral high horse is the lesser of two evil bullshit rhetoric that you spew and that rherotic is why trump won. I love how you ignored the reality that biden was a lot worse than trump regarding gaza and you pretended to care about palestinians

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          There you go. You prefer Trump to Biden with regard to Palestine. That alone shows the brilliant intellect we are working with. Bibi Netanyahu famously loves when Dems are in power and has never stumped for Trump.

          Your numbers only work if you completely ignore any events occuring during their presidencies and assume they have perfect control over a war waged 8000 miles away.

          I guess you are still waiting on the Trump Gaza hotel to pop up too.

          If you don’t know my argument…then why are you arguing?

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            The president can declare what happen in Gaza a genocide without congress approval and ban arms because of it. All presidents have full control on Israel and decide not to use it. If trump was able two have two half baked cease fire where number of murdered Palestinians and destruction was significantly reduces, Biden could have and Harris could have promise real pressure on Israel to accept it. I do not prefer anybody who participate in genocide including Trump. I just stated facts from reputable organizations. So stop pretending you care bout Gaza , admit that you think genocide is not a big deal and get lost.

            I guess you don’t mind if israel building colonies without trump hotels in them

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              I still can’t get over you thinking that Trump is better than Biden with regard to Palestine. Ain’t no numbers going to make that remotely true. Go ask Bibi, though he has made it abundantly clear.

              I can now at least understand why you continue to work against your own interests.

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                I can’t believe that there are stupid, dumb people like you. Yes, numbers and the level of destruction are the metrics to determine who is worse. You are denying facts like a stupid cultist. I also said that I don’t praise Trump because he can totally stop the genocide just like Biden could, but again, like a super dumb cultist, you deny facts. My interest is in holding war criminals like Trump, Harris, and Biden accountable. Bibi is playing politics he would praise any American president. After trump he will praise the next president.

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                  Enjoy being a part of fucking up the Palestine while thinking you are helping. Trump will lead you to the promised land.

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                    Fuck off hypocrite. Fuck you and all your family. All your comment showed that you don’t care about palestinians and deny facts like the level of destruction and any president ability to block wespons and aids to israel because of genocide including Trump.