I read somewhere that Iran can close the strait without a full-scale naval engagement using selective drone strikes and harassing vessels, Iran triggers a spike in maritime insurance premiums which will choke shipping companies. Also because of the narrow width of the strait, also shallow, Iran can use mines, they have both simple contact mines to sophisticated “smart” mines, apparently they possesses one of the largest naval mine inventories in the world.
Those are fair points. They don’t need to block all targeted traffic. They just have to be enough of a threat/pain in the ass for transportation and insurance rates to go up to an uncomfortable level. It’s all about threat and perception.
Sure, the US air force and navy could bomb the shit out of their artillery placements. But given how (relatively) cheap and effective drones are, that might not be as effective as it seems at first.
They’re a petrostate with a hopelessly outdated air force, the US or any other developed country can destroy their infrastructure at their leisure and bring their economy to it’s knees. Which they would happily do if Iran sinks a vessel flagged in their waters.
They also need a working vessel to lay those mines.
Lmao, what fucking reality do you live in. The war is already going on, they’ve been attacking iran for like 2 weeks now. What is this “the USA can DESTROY them if they DARE target our ships” shit? Strait’s closed. try and open it, bitch
lol a country and people that has existed in that region for thousands of years hosting multiple land empires, survived multiple genocidal Mongol hordes…is a petrostate that will crumble if you just bomb some stuff.
Sure, and they are going to bomb it regardless, you see the problem with killing the people you were negotiating with? The next guy isn’t going to come to the table.
Think Americans are going to give up all their comforts and wealth just to bump off Iran?
Also just to add to your point. Even if Trump and Co try to force away those conforts how long till you start getting little IRA style sessesionist groups? The US powergrid alone is a rather vast vulnerability.
Neat, the US taxpayers are going to spend billions of dollars to escort oil for the Arabs. All in order to reduce the value of America’s own oil exports. How likely do you think that is?
Except you can’t even define what that means. How does Iran “break”? They are literally just existing in their country. Where are they supposed to go? Closing the straight was a RESPONSE to American bombings of civilian targets. Are they supposed to just let the US bomb more civilian targets or else they will keep bombing civilian targets? How does that even make sense?
Conversely, the US is spending billions of dollars to do what, exactly? What are the American people getting back on this investment? Do you really think that Americans are going to tolerate increased costs of every product they purchase forever just to achieve the … that is the goal of this whole enterprise?
I’ve been wondering the same thing.
It’s a baller thing to say. But if they’ve lost air superiority (or even if it’s compromised) then it doesn’t mean much.
I read somewhere that Iran can close the strait without a full-scale naval engagement using selective drone strikes and harassing vessels, Iran triggers a spike in maritime insurance premiums which will choke shipping companies. Also because of the narrow width of the strait, also shallow, Iran can use mines, they have both simple contact mines to sophisticated “smart” mines, apparently they possesses one of the largest naval mine inventories in the world.
Those are fair points. They don’t need to block all targeted traffic. They just have to be enough of a threat/pain in the ass for transportation and insurance rates to go up to an uncomfortable level. It’s all about threat and perception.
Sure, the US air force and navy could bomb the shit out of their artillery placements. But given how (relatively) cheap and effective drones are, that might not be as effective as it seems at first.
How shallow? If a ship gets sunk would that be another obstacle?
They’re a petrostate with a hopelessly outdated air force, the US or any other developed country can destroy their infrastructure at their leisure and bring their economy to it’s knees. Which they would happily do if Iran sinks a vessel flagged in their waters.
They also need a working vessel to lay those mines.
Lmao, what fucking reality do you live in. The war is already going on, they’ve been attacking iran for like 2 weeks now. What is this “the USA can DESTROY them if they DARE target our ships” shit? Strait’s closed. try and open it, bitch
lol a country and people that has existed in that region for thousands of years hosting multiple land empires, survived multiple genocidal Mongol hordes…is a petrostate that will crumble if you just bomb some stuff.
Fucking Americunt MAGA brainrot.
The Iranian nation as we know it only came into existence with the fall of the Shah.
The land will always be there, the regime, not so much.
You realize that threats like this don’t work AFTER you already did it, right?
There will be something they haven’t hit yet.
Like their pre-schools. That’ll show em how mighty our brave troops and weapons are.
Israel is involved here so that’s not a joke.
Sure, and they are going to bomb it regardless, you see the problem with killing the people you were negotiating with? The next guy isn’t going to come to the table.
Think Americans are going to give up all their comforts and wealth just to bump off Iran?
Also just to add to your point. Even if Trump and Co try to force away those conforts how long till you start getting little IRA style sessesionist groups? The US powergrid alone is a rather vast vulnerability.
And what do you suppose happens to all those civilians whose economy is now in shambles? Assuming they aren’t killed in the missile strikes, that is.
Losing Air superiority doesn’t mean their artillery stops working.
It’s not really baller if everyone just ignores them, and joins a US led convoy through the Strait.
Neat, the US taxpayers are going to spend billions of dollars to escort oil for the Arabs. All in order to reduce the value of America’s own oil exports. How likely do you think that is?
Pretty likely. Iran will break before America.
Except you can’t even define what that means. How does Iran “break”? They are literally just existing in their country. Where are they supposed to go? Closing the straight was a RESPONSE to American bombings of civilian targets. Are they supposed to just let the US bomb more civilian targets or else they will keep bombing civilian targets? How does that even make sense?
Conversely, the US is spending billions of dollars to do what, exactly? What are the American people getting back on this investment? Do you really think that Americans are going to tolerate increased costs of every product they purchase forever just to achieve the … that is the goal of this whole enterprise?