Please tell me i’m not the only one who still finds this ridiculous and believes that only a court of law can determine guilt?

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    21 days ago

    You’re right that this will boil down to a he said/she said, but it’s concerning this is the best candidate Maine could come up with just based on the facts that he can’t refute.

    What candidate isn’t vulnerable to this type of charge though? Should you be fired from your job, immediately and without trial, if one of your exes comes out of the woodwork to accuse you of something?

    People get drunk. The vast majority of the US population has been drunk at some point in their life. Most people could have such accusations leveled against them, and they would have no way of refuting it.

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      21 days ago

      Should you be fired from your job, immediately and without trial, if one of your exes comes out of the woodwork to accuse you of something

      If there’s evidence from multiple people and text messages and therapist notes all from before a run for a government position that indicates you have a problem with boundaries and sexual assault, yes.

      Or maybe you prefer Platner’s approach to talking to rape victims:

      “Holy fuck, how about people just take some responsibility for themselves and not get so fucked up they wind up having sex with someone they don’t mean to? Men and women, you make a choice to consume enough of a substance to lose your self control. So if you don’t want to be in a comprising situation, act like an adult for fucks sake.”

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        21 days ago

        If there’s evidence from multiple people and text messages and therapist notes all from before a run for a government position that indicates you have a problem with boundaries and sexual assault, yes.

        You are spreading misinformation. Please read the actual NYTimes and Politico articles carefully. There is one and only one piece of contemporary evidence - screenshots of facebook messages that could have been easily photoshopped. And the name of the person they were sent to was kept secret.

        That’s it. Literally everything else has either been deleted or is more recent. The therapist notes are recent.

        Or maybe you prefer Platner’s approach to talking to rape victims:

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          You are spreading misinformation. Please read the actual NYTimes and Politico articles carefully. There is one and only one piece of contemporary evidence - screenshots of facebook messages that could have been easily photoshopped. And the name of the person they were sent to was kept secret.

          That’s it. Literally everything else has either been deleted or is more recent. The therapist notes are recent.

          Just because you don’t know the names of the friend and ex-boyfriend doesn’t mean they are completely unknown or that they are not credible. Likewise, the therapist’s notes are still evidence.

          His quote speaks to how he views rape victims which is relevant.

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            21 days ago

            You said:

            If there’s evidence from multiple people and text messages and therapist notes all from before a run for a government position that indicates you have a problem with boundaries and sexual assault, yes.

            I pointed out that in fact there is very little evidence contemporary to the alleged rape. You ignored this and instead replied, “but it’s still evidence.”

            His quote speaks to how he views rape victims which is relevant.

            Here’s what he wrote about a soldier convicted of raping and murdering a 14 year old Iraqi girl:

            Well, luckily Green just hung himself a few days ago while serving life without parole.

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              Again, Platner could release his side of the conversations. I wonder how much different his texts are from what his victim is saying about that night.

              It is still evidence whether you want it to be or not.

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                21 days ago

                Why would he have those messages if what he says is true? If Platner is telling the truth, then those messages never existed. You’re demanding Platner produce something that, according to his side, never existed in the first place.

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                    21 days ago

                    You’re confusing “all texts” with “specific and relevant texts.”

                    Yes, Platner would have had texts with her. But the texts where she asked him not to come over, or accused him of rape, the actual damning stuff? None of that would exist if Platner is telling the truth.