Logitech recently told The Verge that some of its mice will soon feature replaceable lithium-ion batteries, but the new models will only be available in Europe. Like...
I wouldn’t buy a cordless mouse that couldn’t use rechargeable AA’s or AAA’s.
Consumers really need to take control, these companies deliberately create ewaste.
I’m on my 2nd set of switches on my current mouse from ~2010 because I can’t find a new one with that and a button layout that is as good. It’s insane to me that no one has made a viable replacement since then.
Yeah I wanted a keyboard with wired + bt and the 2.4ghz option was a bonus. It can connect to 3 different devices easily. I bought the 8bit controller so i can use it on two separate devices with with the dongle and bt.
Eh, I just have the mouse cable/charger on my desk connected to the 2.4ghz receiver, super quick to just plug it in while in a game, no need to go find unused batteries.
Though i must admit, mice using AA-batteries can last like a year, right? Which is pretty cool though.
I use corded, have previously used rechargeable AA mice though, it’s not an issue and you don’t have to worry about the built in battery ever being the problem with the mouse.
Same here, for some of my mice and for a bunch more of things - for example a old pair of noise reduction headphones I have uses a single AAA battery.
It’s only with a few years of you use that you really notice the great advantage of rechargeable AA/AAA batteries over custom format rechargeable batteries - when they invariably loose capacity after many recharging cycles, it’s stupidly simple to replace the AA/AAA batteries (and if you’re lucky the technology has improved in the meanwhile, so the newer ones are actually better) but not so for the custom format ones.
That pair of noise reduction headphones (which I bought for work and are now used at home for gaming) are maybe 15 years old by now and gone through 3 or 4 generations of rechargeable batteries.
I’m not sure of the advantage, docking the device instead of putting the batteries in a recharger?
The batteries do not need to be charged that often anyway, and that would increase the cost of every device, as opposed to just buying one charger that should last for a very, very long time.
Batteries of a mouse don’t need to be charged that often. But how about flashlights, headphones and the like? Internal batteries have their uses. Even with a mouse, you could still use it while it charged.
Trying things is good R&D is good. Bringing things to market is good. If it is wasteful address it but outright banning is a bit heavyhanded. Stick an ewaste tax on it and mandate that no matter what the minimum price difference between the models has to be the value of that tax.
Non-replaceable batteries are bad, but they are far form new, they have already been tried and are known to be deliberately anti-consumer, which is why the eu is doing something about it. Every single person does not need to buy ewaste for something to be known as ewaste.
Consumer tech would have progressed a great deal more if consumers had standards. At the moment it has just gone from bigger number better, to put ai in the name.
Tech is meant to be better than that, sustainability is a massive part of long term viability due to finite resources.
I wouldn’t buy a cordless mouse that couldn’t use rechargeable AA’s or AAA’s. Consumers really need to take control, these companies deliberately create ewaste.
I’m on my 2nd set of switches on my current mouse from ~2010 because I can’t find a new one with that and a button layout that is as good. It’s insane to me that no one has made a viable replacement since then.
I bought Keychron keyboard because it can be used wired or wirelessly. Why can’t mice do the same? I don’t see many options at all for that.
My logitech mouse can. It needs a bit of plastic around the usb port though, presumably because the port itself isn’t strong enough.
Game controllers can generally be used that way too, so you pose a good question.
The only logical answer might be because they want to create waste, and consumers have not demanded that they offer corded/cordless mice.
Yeah I wanted a keyboard with wired + bt and the 2.4ghz option was a bonus. It can connect to 3 different devices easily. I bought the 8bit controller so i can use it on two separate devices with with the dongle and bt.
So where are my mices with the same setup?
Eh, I just have the mouse cable/charger on my desk connected to the 2.4ghz receiver, super quick to just plug it in while in a game, no need to go find unused batteries.
Though i must admit, mice using AA-batteries can last like a year, right? Which is pretty cool though.
I use corded, have previously used rechargeable AA mice though, it’s not an issue and you don’t have to worry about the built in battery ever being the problem with the mouse.
Same here, for some of my mice and for a bunch more of things - for example a old pair of noise reduction headphones I have uses a single AAA battery.
It’s only with a few years of you use that you really notice the great advantage of rechargeable AA/AAA batteries over custom format rechargeable batteries - when they invariably loose capacity after many recharging cycles, it’s stupidly simple to replace the AA/AAA batteries (and if you’re lucky the technology has improved in the meanwhile, so the newer ones are actually better) but not so for the custom format ones.
That pair of noise reduction headphones (which I bought for work and are now used at home for gaming) are maybe 15 years old by now and gone through 3 or 4 generations of rechargeable batteries.
Why? I really want one I dont have to think about again. USB c charging.
Hell I wish they would make a mouse that recharges from movement and clicking.
Logitech have a solar keyboard that is allllll I want.
Batteries do not last forever.
These dodgy companies have it far too easy with apathetic consumerists. No wonder the world is on fire.
How about AAA batteries that are charged by the device with USB-C?
I’m not sure of the advantage, docking the device instead of putting the batteries in a recharger? The batteries do not need to be charged that often anyway, and that would increase the cost of every device, as opposed to just buying one charger that should last for a very, very long time.
Putting batteries in a charger isn’t difficult.
Batteries of a mouse don’t need to be charged that often. But how about flashlights, headphones and the like? Internal batteries have their uses. Even with a mouse, you could still use it while it charged.
I guess that would depend on how often you used the torch, for me rechargeable batteries last for years in them.
My headphones have a cord, because logic (for my use case anyway). I have no idea how long batteries tend to last in cordless ones.
So with the mouse, what you are saying is that you could use it while it was plugged in with a cord?
Ah jesus as if its that simple, one size doesnt fit all.
I am all for consumer regulations, I just have a preference for what I am currently looking for. A solar keyboard is niche and cool.
Options. Your preference is fine honestly. Options simply don’t exist though. That’s the problem.
Why do you believe good options don’t exist?
Demand creates supply
Apathetic consumers get trash
I did that thing called “look for options” and came up completely empty.
And we live in a supply side economics world so not really.
Exactly, make then make two versions and add an ewaste charge to non replaceable. They are making two versions of everything anyway.
There are things much more important than your preferences
If it was all just about my preferences, we would all be using corded… better, simpler, less waste.
And consumer tech would never progress.
Trying things is good R&D is good. Bringing things to market is good. If it is wasteful address it but outright banning is a bit heavyhanded. Stick an ewaste tax on it and mandate that no matter what the minimum price difference between the models has to be the value of that tax.
Non-replaceable batteries are bad, but they are far form new, they have already been tried and are known to be deliberately anti-consumer, which is why the eu is doing something about it. Every single person does not need to buy ewaste for something to be known as ewaste.
Consumer tech would have progressed a great deal more if consumers had standards. At the moment it has just gone from bigger number better, to put ai in the name. Tech is meant to be better than that, sustainability is a massive part of long term viability due to finite resources.
but you will have to think about it again when the battery dies and won’t recharge