• Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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    21 days ago

    200 NGOs Oppose Biden’s Historic Expansion of ICE Detention System: “Detention should not be about politics.”

    ICE records show Biden admin plans could give Trump a head start on deportations

    President Biden Signs Anti-Immigrant Spending Bill Reaching Trump-Era Highs

    Biden’s Emergency Funding Proposal Seeks $14 Billion for Immigration System From Congress

    Tom Homan - Border Czar was originally appointed by Obama

    Keep in mind, these democrat moves to bolster ICE were happening while the right was blatantly telegraphing their moves to immediately weaponize ICE once they took power. Project 2025 came out and promised to use ICE to plunder and abuse Americans. Biden and team then spent the next 4 years not only failing to prepare for Trump, but preemptively strengthening the mechanisms Trump would eventually use to carry out project 2025. The democrats are controlled opposition.

    Sure, maybe we wouldnt be seeing this intense of immigration enforcement if Kamala were in charge, but if she were, she’d be working behind the scenes to ensure the right had all the tools they needed when the time was right.

    The democrats are controlled opposition and the American electoral system is kabuki theater. The fascist descent is the only logical conclusion to the American political experiment- which was predicated on the wholesale genocide of Native American Indians and quickly pivoted to enslaving an entire continent.

    The only logical conclusion to this “pragmatic liberal utilitarianism” is a situation where liberals are chiding leftists for not voting for dem candidate Ted Cruz as he campaigns against republican candidate Mecha Hitler. Liberals will still see nothing wrong with that. They will sell out the victims of American Imperialism to buy themselves 4 more years of political waffling - just as they did with Palestinians.

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      21 days ago

      I get the sentiment but what bugs me about posts like this (and I’m guilty of making them), is that they assume a single vote is all it will take.

      I typically vote democrat, not because I support them, but because I try to maximize the effectiveness of my vote. A third party or protest vote accomplishes nothing but self satisfaction. A painful vote for someone you know sucks, but is a step in the right direction is the right strategy. The dems, who without a doubt are terrible, at least showed that they will eventually listen to their voters when they swapped out biden’s carcass. I was not in love with Kamala, but at least we had a viable candidate who wasn’t an obvious fascist.

      The vote is where the work STARTS. Electing dems is not the destination, they are just a tool to help us get where we need to go. Use them, then discard them.

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        21 days ago

        A painful vote for someone you know sucks, but is a step in the right direction is the right strategy.

        Again, the only logical conclusion to this “pragmatic” utilitarianism is reaching a point where you’re talking yourself into voting for dem candidate Ted Cruz as he runs against mecha Hitler. This philosophy is incompatible with being against genocide.

        If Trump were a democrat, blueMAGA would be chiding leftists for not voting for him. If, in 20 years, the choice for president is between a democrat who wants to kill 6 million jews, and a republican who wants to kill 10 million jews, will you still be militantly democrat?

        The dems, who without a doubt are terrible, at least showed that they will eventually listen to their voters when they swapped out biden’s carcass.

        Is this really a point in your favor? How was that debacle anything other than a perfect illustration of how democrats will feign powerlessness, and then adjust course too late? If anything, the democrats can be characterized as too little, too late. They are dooming us to a fascist descent, and we have to make our own party.

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          Here’s the thing. You take enough steps in the right direction, and eventually you are on the right path. It sure as hell beats standing still and letting some jackass drag you in the wrong direction. If you let that happen once, then you have to get back on your feet and starting waking in the right direction just to get back to where you were before.

          People say that Democrats are just controlled opposition, and that’s not true. Non-voters are the controlled opposition. Not advocating for themselves, not advocating for basic decency and accountability allows us all to be governed in an indecent and unaccountable way. They’ve been tricked into this by troll accounts saying “both sides are the same”.