• Jo Miran@lemmy.mlM
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    6 months ago

    Actual conversation I had regarding my sexuality:

    Femal Aquaintance- “You can’t be bi, you’re married! Wait…do you cheat on -=wife=-?!?”

    Me - “Of course I can, and no I don’t cheat.”

    Female Aquaintance - “But you’re married! Doesn’t -=wife=- have a problem with it?”

    Me - “No. She’s bi too.”

    Female Aquaintance -“But she’s married!!!”

    Two weeks later she got drunk and wanted a threesome, then got annoyed that we turned her down. I have no idea why people immediately assume that bi means “will fuck anyone that asks”.

    • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
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      6 months ago

      Online dating as a bi woman is grim. It’s annoying, because in certain contexts, I’d be up for casually fooling around with a couple, but when you think you’re going on a date with a woman and then her surprise boyfriend shows up, it’s gross and predatory

    • Icytrees@sh.itjust.works
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      6 months ago

      It really opens up the world of bored white middle class couple threesomes, though. They always pay for drinks and give fantastic Christmas gifts.

    • JillyB@beehaw.org
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      6 months ago

      My mom met a non-binary friend of mine and their girlfriend. My NB friend comes across as a masculine muscular bro dude but their NB and pan. I mentioned to my mom later that they were NB and she was like “but he has a girlfriend…?” I had to walk her through “you’ve heard of men being attracted to women, and women being attracted to women. Well Zack is neither and is attracted to women.” In her mind, gender and sexuality were like, part of the same thing. Which I guess they are but not the way she thought.

      • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        6 months ago

        I had to teach the difference between the two to my therapist the first time I talked about being trans.

        The upside to that whole thing being that they ended up using my knowledge as a launching point to learn what the latest research has to say about gender, sexuality, and trans people, and then several years later thanked me because my conversations on the subject with them went on to help them with other patients that they had.

          • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            6 months ago

            I don’t have it in me. I can speak on stuff like being trans or bi from a place of personal experience and needing to learn about that stuff for reasons like to be able to medically advocate for myself to get proper care and treatment, but I don’t have the public speaking skills or ability to articulate my point well enough for a profession like therapy.

            I did enjoy being in a quasi-managerial role though, where it was informal enough that I got to encourage the kids I worked with to do what they were passionate about or teach them about stuff I knew and push them to try new things that they might have never considered before. Talking to high school and college kids who were passionate about different things and getting to hear them info dump about their interests was fun.

  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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    6 months ago

    And then the goalposts move to “Oh you have had sex with men and women? Well you’re dating a woman now so clearly it was just a phase you’re not actually bi”

  • UnPassive@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Had the exact same conversation with my super Christian mom. In front of some siblings. It was amazing.

    She was arguing that we need to stop normalizing LGBT stuff because anyone can swing both ways.

    I told her straight people can’t swing both ways, if you can then you’re bisexual. She did not like this, so we all took a poll and she was the only bi person in the room.

    She’s less homophobic now lol

    • lemmeLurk@lemmy.zip
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      6 months ago

      I think that’s what happens a lot of time, and why there is a tiny truth to them saying things like “pride makes the kids gay”. It does not, but it might teach some bi sexuals that it’s okay to be just that, and not force yourself to forget about the other half.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    6 months ago

    Straight facts:

    I am a straight man. Hello everyone. I hope you’re all having a wonderful day.

    Also a fact, I support all peoples choices in terms of what they like and how they identify. Not sure why I would care if someone else wants to be gay, bi, trans, hereto/cis, queer, lesbian, etc. I’m not those things, I’m not sure why it would bother anyone that someone else likes things? Whatever.

    Also a fact from a straight guy, aka, straight fact.

    While I can recognise that some masculine figures are handsome/good looking, I do not… And I can’t stress this enough… I do not feel any attraction to men.

    They can be rather good looking, but that doesn’t make me want to get them naked and fool around.

    If you have excitement in your pants for someone of the same gender, well… I have news for you… And there’s nothing wrong with that.

    Be who you are. Anybody who gives a shit is probably not worth knowing.

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      6 days ago

      This is why i like the term “handsome”, i can absolutely recognize that george clooney is handsome, but even as someone who has explored their sexuality as far as possible thanks to the help of the internet i can’t even enjoy the idea of him in a sexual context with the hottest woman i’ve ever imagined.

      It’s something that makes me wonder if everyone who watches “straight” porn is actually really quite bi/pan, because i just… can’t really enjoy it? It’s doable if all you see of the guy is the junk, but if you actually see the dude’s body it’s like when you make food that’s not gross but also not tasty, so you just sorta eat it dispassionately…

      And this is coming from someone who actually REALLY likes dicks, and some very very specific kinds of guys. Despite those things i just find the idea of attraction to normal guys utterly baffling.

    • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
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      6 months ago

      A term that I find useful is “platonic aesthetic attraction”.

      It’s a term that I learned through the ace community when I was going through the common bisexual experience of “am I bi though, or am I just asexual?”. It turned out I was bi, but I find the split model of attraction is a useful framework.

      Platonic Aesthetic attraction is when you’re able to see someone and go “now that is a beautiful man”, but not experience any attraction in the conventional sense of the word. I personally find it useful because even though I do experience sexual or romantic attraction to people of all genders, that doesn’t mean I experience that for everyone. Sometimes a beautiful person is just a beautiful person.


      Edit: got mixed up, and said “Platonic attraction” when I meant “aesthetic attraction”. Thanks to @[email protected] for the correction

    • chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net
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      Meh, you’re a little gay. ‘Attractive’ has no objective meaning, some just are to you. You’re just not gay enough to fuck. A little gay and a little straight is called bi. But really it’s just a spectrum and it can change over time. What’s important to you, and lots of people, is how you identify. And you’re correct that doesn’t and shouldn’t matter because it has no affect on other’s lives. Now…let the hate for my opinion flow

      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        6 months ago

        I like your opinion. You can consider me to be bi if you want.

        I don’t identify that way and I’m not so insecure that someone having a different opinion about me, bothers me in the slightest. You do you, my friend.

    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I’m a dad, as far as I’m concerned anyone who hasn’t reproduced sexually is asexual.

      chad.jpg

  • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    A self-own on par with loudly proclaiming women never get wet when aroused because it never happened to any women you’ve ever been with.

  • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    You can have sex with the same sex without being gay. Look at the porno industry for example. It’s all about attraction when it comes to sexual orientation.

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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      6 days ago

      To be fair even if it doesn’t make you gay, it’s at least an indication that they’re not… not gay…
      Because I would not have sex with someone i’m not attracted to, even if you paid me quite a lot of money for it. If i’m not sexually attracted to someone them i’m kind of by default averse to the idea of them in a sexual context at all.

      • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        6 days ago

        I once saw a documentary from Louis Thereaux about the sex industry. There were gay movies being filmed, with the guys not being gay, but in a really bad position in life and this paid loads, so they just did it. Sometimes life goes south on you and desperation can push you really far beyond a boundary you never thought you would cross. So never say never.