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      Yep, outsourced over seas like everything else here.

      (i wish this was more of a joke but even “healthcare tourism” isnt uncommon because it is literally cheaper to fly abroad get care and fly back)

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    We actually did in WW2…

    Europeans were already less racist, but when Americans finally showed up, especially in France, absolutely no one gave a fuck what color their skin. The Nazis did, but by that point they were dead Nazis.

    When American GIs returned, the Black ones didn’t like the idea of going back to being second class citizens, and the white ones were less inclined to think they were lesser.

    That lead to the civil rights movement in the 60s.

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      The Nazis did, but by that point they were dead Nazis.

      Hitler personally made a show in his Olympic games of giving less of a fuck about it than the USians.

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        To be fair, Hitler got a lot of his ideas from America…

        He implemented worse shit than America was doing, obviously. But that’s because the most extreme in America didn’t have control.

        This pivotal meeting on the road to the Nuremberg Laws involved repeated and detailed discussion of the American example,” Whitman writes. (p.96) The Germans were not interested so much in U.S. segregation laws; their goals were to disqualify Jews from citizenship and to criminalize marriage and sexual relations between Jews and non-Jews, in order to “protect German blood and honor.”

        For this, they looked to a number of American legal innovations. One was the way in which the U.S. immigration quotas, adopted by Congress in 1921 and tightened in 1924, were structured to heavily favor what were considered “racially desirable” people in northern and western Europe, and severely reduce the number admitted from eastern and southern Europe (primarily Jews and Catholics) and from Asia. Although the U.S. was by no means the only country to decide immigration based on racist ideas, Whitman notes, it had become “the leader in developing explicitly racist policies of nationality and immigration.” (p.36)

        The Nazi jurists were also keenly interested in America’s development of a type of second-class citizenship for residents of Puerto Rico and the Philippines, the territories that the U.S. captured and occupied in the Spanish-American War of 1898. The Supreme Court upheld the conquered peoples’ status as “non-citizen nationals.” German legal scholars created an extensive body of literature on the subject, which the Nazis utilized. “America, in the eyes of this German literature, was a laboratory for experimentation in diminished citizenship rights,” Whitman notes. (p.43)

        Finally, the Nazis looked closely at the laws in 30 states prohibiting marriage between whites and blacks, the last of which (Virginia) was abolished only in 1967. In defining who could marry and who could not, these American precedents included helpful (to the Nazis) ways for deciding the status of persons of mixed-race. The issue of “mongrelization,” which entered the American legal system originally because of relations between white masters and black slaves, was important to the Nazis in addressing the question of Germans who were of partly-Jewish descent.

        As an example of the prominence of sentiment in America against race-mixing, Whitman quotes U.S. Senator Theodore Bilbo (Democrat of Mississippi) railing, in 1938, about how “mongrelization” could “destroy white civilization.” Bilbo worried that “even one drop of Negro blood placed in the veins of the purest Caucasian destroys the inventive genius of his mind and palsies his creative faculty.” (p.77) Many states—primarily, but not exclusively, in the south—defined a Negro as someone who had any Negro ancestors; hence the term “one drop.” Ironically, the Nazis considered the one-drop rule too harsh, and instead adopted the one-grandparent rule to define Jewishness.

        http://new.wymaninstitute.org/2024/02/was-hitler-inspired-by-america/

        Let that bit at the end sink in.

        The American South had stricter “racial purity laws” then the fucking nazis

  • The pilgrims came here for the freedom to be intolerable, intolerant religious nutjobs. The founding fathers kicked off the revolution so they could be financially independent from Britain and keep the wealth for themselves. The Nazis got their ideas from American bigotry and we didn’t care to stop them until they bombed us.

    This country has always been about “freedom for us to do what we want to you” and nothing else.

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      so they could be financially independent from Britain and keep the wealth for themselves

      With ‘the wealth’ including the slaves they owned.

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        Washington was the richest man and owned the largest number of slaves. USA has always been an oligarchy.