• Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
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    could put people off activity

    Then so be it.

    The mountains are not in need of idiots, and the tourism industry can find other ways to keep the idiots busy.

    People with some experience and some brains will have no problems.

  • aard@kyu.de
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    This is a quite important discussion - the last years have seen an increase of cases where people needed to be rescued from situations they should not have gotten themselves in.

    That includes school groups where teachers didn’t bother to prepare, and people without experience following influencers route suggestions. I guess next step would be checking liability for those as well.

    Properly equipped with a bivy bag that situation might have been survivable.

    • Kornblumenratte@feddit.org
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      She had a bivouac sack with her. That’s why they found him guilty: it was his 15^th or 16^th tour on the Großglockner, he took her with him with moonboots instead of proper mountain shoes, declined several help offers and left her with her bivouac gear stowed away in the backpack.

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        I missed that she had that with her - that makes things even worse. Either he’s a weapons grade moron, or he planned that trip to kill her.

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    Not sure here - if you take a look at that case, he straight up murdered his girlfriend there on the mountain. That should not put people off activity.

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    The court heard Thomas P had left his girlfriend alone and exposed in the open and pushed on alone, apparently believing he could secure assistance from a hut on the other side of the mountain. He had declined the offer of assistance from a rescue helicopter that had been sent to see if they required help.

    What.

    • aard@kyu.de
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      Helicopter rescue is a few thousand euros - and unless you have an insurance for that you have to pay that by yourself.

      No idea if that was the case here - but it’d not be the first time that somebody refused rescue because of the cost.

      Don’t go into the alps without experience - and make sure you have proper insurance. If you’re a member of the Alpenverein (as I am) you’d be covered - but probably also gained enough experience to not get stuck in such an entirely avoidable situation anyway.

      • trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works
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        Austria will charge people who get themselves into danger in the mountains recklessly for their rescue. And that’s right. Mountain rescue is dangerous. Those idiots don’t only endanger themselves, but also those who have to rescue them.