Ok first of all, if you are 1 day pay cut (so no pay for 1 day so you can strike) from being homeless, the harm is already done and you now get to enjoy the benefits of showing nothing but apathy for the past 2 decades
Second, of course I do not mean every single person should be able to do this… but your position is that basically NOBODY could strike either which is laughable
Dude, I wasn’t even in the work force 2 decades ago, I went from high school straight into paycheck-to-paycheck survival mode because I couldn’t afford to go to college. I didn’t even have a chance, but people like you go online and act like all Americans are lazy assholes who should just fix their country because you don’t know what it’s like to be locked into wage slavery just to afford the most basic amenities that are provided freely to everyone in your country. If I don’t have a job, I lose access to the medication that makes my life bearable and possible, and in order to keep a job I have to sacrifice most of my time and energy for it.
Ok then… hang on to the scraps they have allowed you to have until they take those away… I am sure you’ll just go down happy you stretched your misery as much as possible without inconveniencing the regime.
all Americans are lazy assholes
lazy no, just apathetic… assholes yes, it if does not affect them personally, they could not care their neighbour suffers… “fuck you, got mine” is the most identifiable American Value
If I don’t have a job, I lose access to the medication that makes my life bearable and possible, and in order to keep a job I have to sacrifice most of my time and energy for it.
This regime just kicked around 11 million of people in your situation out of health care… I guess it did not hit you this time so you keep chugging away at your self admitted slavery…
Alright, so what should I do to singlehandedly save my whole country? What do you want from me? Do you feel good about yourself that you’re arguing with people in worse living conditions than you on the internet? I will quit my job and go out into the streets until a cop shoots me to death for sleeping on a park bench in your name, that will save my country!
I do not… but either you felt called out by my comment or “care” about other people who are doing exactly as I am assuming.
If you feel such camaraderie with them, what did you do for the 11 million people that were kicked out of Health Care by your rapist president a few months ago?
Ok seriously, have you actually talked to people into taking any action? any, as in “stop buying from big corpo as much as possible” or “stop using Meta, Xitter, etc”
Even writing to your corrupt Senator/Governor works something because it piles on the evidence of dislike.
If so, you are already doing something and, while you alone won’t change the world, you are contributing
Notice I am not (and never were) asking people to set themselves on fire on the Capitol stairs or sacrifice their first born, those are the exaggerations people point to simply to pretend there is no hope and since there is nothing they can do, they might as well actually do nothing.
Jesus fucking christ, dude. Get some perspective, or shut the fuck up. They don’t “got theirs,” and choosing to “help” is quick suicide for no gain.
Honestly, it’s disgusting to watch someone like you parade some absurd moral high ground while having absolutely no grasp on the lives others are living.
They don’t “got theirs,” and choosing to “help” is quick suicide for no gain.
so they’ll just wait their turn to lose health care on the next big beautiful tax cut for the rich?
I honestly couldn’t care less about them… if Americans do not care about themselves, what do I care.
The reason I am upset is because their actions (or lack thereof) is causing the World tons of pain… they are afraid of losing their jobs? how about the 150 Iranian little girls they just slaughtered just because their pedophile president doesn’t want people asking about his kiddy diddling days?..
Honestly, it’s disgusting to watch someone like you parade some absurd moral high ground while having absolutely no grasp on the lives others are living.
The stop the pearl clutching and block me… you are choosing to engage with me
I am choosing to tell you the fuck off. Don’t mistake this for an exchange of ideals. You are behaving in a disgusting fashion, and you need to be told. I respect that it comes from a good place, because we ultimately want the same thing, but to treat people who already feel powerless as morally bankrupt is beyond absurd.
You are kicking the powerless while they are down, because you don’t like the outcome. Get some perspective.
Same as I have chosen to tell Americans to take action and undo some of the damage they have caused themselves and the world
Don’t mistake this for an exchange of ideals.
Neither you, nor I, have discussed ideals so no worries
You are behaving in a disgusting fashion, and you need to be told. I respect that it comes from a good place, because we ultimately want the same thing, but to treat people who already feel powerless as morally bankrupt is beyond absurd.
When someone cares more about their job than the fact their country is slaughtering hundreds of people around the world and currently, actively starving the people of Cuba for no reason other than their Pedophile president wants to hide his kiddy fiddling activities… are they not, just a bit, morally bankrupt?
You are kicking the powerless while they are down, because you don’t like the outcome. Get some perspective.
WOW… if the American people are powerless… what do you call the Iranian children killed in school?
This isn’t a competition of who is a bigger victim. People are suffering in both halves of the world, and you’re here telling American’s they should be killing themselves in protest because their president is out there committing war crimes. The irony of your self-righteous attitude, as you sit here projecting your pearl-clutching sense of moral rightness onto others who are just struggling to keep breathing, is fucking insane.
America is not my country. I just don’t let bullies spew shit without being told. Do yourself and the rest of the world a favor, and reflect on the things you say.
and you’re here telling American’s they should be killing themselves in protest
Literally I am not. That is the exaggeration they jump to to pretend they have no choice.
Multiple times I said that a few hours a week of communicating with like minded people or actual organizations that are moving against the push for fascism would go a long way… no self immolating, no dying, no starving.
The thing is most people would not even consider stop using Xitter or Facebook as a form of protest… that is too much to ask of them apparently
There’s a lot of fucking problems in the world. For someone so vocal about what others should be doing, what the fuck are YOU doing about all the problems?
If you have time to post drivel on lemmy, maybe you have time to go make a change in the world.
And we’re fighting it, no thanks to people like you who only attack us.
But good to know you’re in a country with no problems whatsoever. So you can sit on your lazy ass and let all the problems keep on happening because they don’t impact you personally.
I owe you nothing bud… this is your country… my only involvement is because we keep getting splashed from the dumpster fire you have going on
But good to know you’re in a country with no problems whatsoever.
Never claimed that, very poor strawman
So you can sit on your lazy ass and let all the problems keep on happening because they don’t impact you personally.
You know nothing about me or what I do… and it does impact me personally (read dumpster fire comment a few lines above)… but even if it did not, I am not American so I do care what happens to others
Can’t say I really disagree. As an older person with a lot at stake it’s just not bad enough to make the risk worth it (times several million). It is the younger generation that will have to stand up, but I fear they don’t have enough good jobs to make striking effective. I don’t think civil rights style peaceful protest is going to work this time, either. Revolution is brewing and just waiting for the scales to get tipped a bit too far.
Ok first of all, if you are 1 day pay cut (so no pay for 1 day so you can strike) from being homeless, the harm is already done and you now get to enjoy the benefits of showing nothing but apathy for the past 2 decades
Second, of course I do not mean every single person should be able to do this… but your position is that basically NOBODY could strike either which is laughable
Dude, I wasn’t even in the work force 2 decades ago, I went from high school straight into paycheck-to-paycheck survival mode because I couldn’t afford to go to college. I didn’t even have a chance, but people like you go online and act like all Americans are lazy assholes who should just fix their country because you don’t know what it’s like to be locked into wage slavery just to afford the most basic amenities that are provided freely to everyone in your country. If I don’t have a job, I lose access to the medication that makes my life bearable and possible, and in order to keep a job I have to sacrifice most of my time and energy for it.
Ok then… hang on to the scraps they have allowed you to have until they take those away… I am sure you’ll just go down happy you stretched your misery as much as possible without inconveniencing the regime.
lazy no, just apathetic… assholes yes, it if does not affect them personally, they could not care their neighbour suffers… “fuck you, got mine” is the most identifiable American Value
This regime just kicked around 11 million of people in your situation out of health care… I guess it did not hit you this time so you keep chugging away at your self admitted slavery…
Alright, so what should I do to singlehandedly save my whole country? What do you want from me? Do you feel good about yourself that you’re arguing with people in worse living conditions than you on the internet? I will quit my job and go out into the streets until a cop shoots me to death for sleeping on a park bench in your name, that will save my country!
Nothing, do you know what the GENERAL part of General Strike means?
I would love to America to fuck off… but YOU don’t need to do anything for ME… you should be doing this for YOUR FUCKING SELF
LOL OMG the victim complex… this is another American Value
Maybe be smarter than the Pedophile you elected as president? maybe just spend a few hours a week organizing from the safety of your home?
you’re talking to individuals, not a public. you do not have that kind of pull.
it’s a public forum bud… you just felt singled out.
Maybe if you were a person actually doing something, you would have interpreted my comments as “uff sucks to be them”
no i feel a responsibility to stick up for people who have stuck up for me. you legitimately don’t know who i am.
I do not… but either you felt called out by my comment or “care” about other people who are doing exactly as I am assuming.
If you feel such camaraderie with them, what did you do for the 11 million people that were kicked out of Health Care by your rapist president a few months ago?
Come on, shut me up and show me the good stuff
I work every day to lay the groundwork for a general strike.
I speak to everyone I can about it.
I have convinced maybe 3 people and I have about 150 million workers left to go.
But let’s be more realistic. Maybe 30 million are already convinced. Only 120 million people left to talk to.
I’ll update you when I’ve spoken with everybody.
LOL when just talking to other people seems too much for you that you push it sarcastically
I wish I wasn’t serious. It’s not sarcasm when it’s the bald face truth.
Ok seriously, have you actually talked to people into taking any action? any, as in “stop buying from big corpo as much as possible” or “stop using Meta, Xitter, etc”
Even writing to your corrupt Senator/Governor works something because it piles on the evidence of dislike.
If so, you are already doing something and, while you alone won’t change the world, you are contributing
Notice I am not (and never were) asking people to set themselves on fire on the Capitol stairs or sacrifice their first born, those are the exaggerations people point to simply to pretend there is no hope and since there is nothing they can do, they might as well actually do nothing.
Jesus fucking christ, dude. Get some perspective, or shut the fuck up. They don’t “got theirs,” and choosing to “help” is quick suicide for no gain.
Honestly, it’s disgusting to watch someone like you parade some absurd moral high ground while having absolutely no grasp on the lives others are living.
so they’ll just wait their turn to lose health care on the next big beautiful tax cut for the rich?
I honestly couldn’t care less about them… if Americans do not care about themselves, what do I care.
The reason I am upset is because their actions (or lack thereof) is causing the World tons of pain… they are afraid of losing their jobs? how about the 150 Iranian little girls they just slaughtered just because their pedophile president doesn’t want people asking about his kiddy diddling days?..
The stop the pearl clutching and block me… you are choosing to engage with me
I am choosing to tell you the fuck off. Don’t mistake this for an exchange of ideals. You are behaving in a disgusting fashion, and you need to be told. I respect that it comes from a good place, because we ultimately want the same thing, but to treat people who already feel powerless as morally bankrupt is beyond absurd.
You are kicking the powerless while they are down, because you don’t like the outcome. Get some perspective.
Same as I have chosen to tell Americans to take action and undo some of the damage they have caused themselves and the world
Neither you, nor I, have discussed ideals so no worries
When someone cares more about their job than the fact their country is slaughtering hundreds of people around the world and currently, actively starving the people of Cuba for no reason other than their Pedophile president wants to hide his kiddy fiddling activities… are they not, just a bit, morally bankrupt?
WOW… if the American people are powerless… what do you call the Iranian children killed in school?
This isn’t a competition of who is a bigger victim. People are suffering in both halves of the world, and you’re here telling American’s they should be killing themselves in protest because their president is out there committing war crimes. The irony of your self-righteous attitude, as you sit here projecting your pearl-clutching sense of moral rightness onto others who are just struggling to keep breathing, is fucking insane.
America is not my country. I just don’t let bullies spew shit without being told. Do yourself and the rest of the world a favor, and reflect on the things you say.
Literally I am not. That is the exaggeration they jump to to pretend they have no choice.
Multiple times I said that a few hours a week of communicating with like minded people or actual organizations that are moving against the push for fascism would go a long way… no self immolating, no dying, no starving.
The thing is most people would not even consider stop using Xitter or Facebook as a form of protest… that is too much to ask of them apparently
There’s a lot of fucking problems in the world. For someone so vocal about what others should be doing, what the fuck are YOU doing about all the problems?
If you have time to post drivel on lemmy, maybe you have time to go make a change in the world.
I can multi task, you know?
But seriously, how lame is this reply of yours? my country is not speed running towards fascism, yours is.
And we’re fighting it, no thanks to people like you who only attack us.
But good to know you’re in a country with no problems whatsoever. So you can sit on your lazy ass and let all the problems keep on happening because they don’t impact you personally.
Sure, keep telling me the type of person you are.
Are you?
I owe you nothing bud… this is your country… my only involvement is because we keep getting splashed from the dumpster fire you have going on
Never claimed that, very poor strawman
You know nothing about me or what I do… and it does impact me personally (read dumpster fire comment a few lines above)… but even if it did not, I am not American so I do care what happens to others
Grow up dude
Doesn’t feel great when someone accuses you of being lazy and doing nothing, does it
Knowing I am not lazy, I am undisturbed by that comment
Can’t say I really disagree. As an older person with a lot at stake it’s just not bad enough to make the risk worth it (times several million). It is the younger generation that will have to stand up, but I fear they don’t have enough good jobs to make striking effective. I don’t think civil rights style peaceful protest is going to work this time, either. Revolution is brewing and just waiting for the scales to get tipped a bit too far.