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        I never understood the whole aversion to “the friend zone.” Like, isn’t that exactly what you need to be first before you can build a romance on top?

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          5 hours ago

          When you’re transitioning between pre-teen and teenager, and the hormones are hitting hard, kids often have a hard time processing unrequited affection

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      4 days ago

      Showing genuine interest in dick picks and caring about the other person getting off has been working wonders on Grindr

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    I feel way too compelled to share. I got hit by teenage urges really hard. A girl I was into teased me only to reveal later that she thought I was weird, which I found out through friends. It felt crushing. I became a bit of an incel, but I eventually made a friend of the opposite sex. I deliberately shifted focus from desperation to simply existing in the moment. Someone enjoyed my presence sincerely and it repaired some of that shame weighing me down. I eventually met my would be wife and treated her like a friend until it was more than that.

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      4 days ago

      Wait. You mean to tell me treating a woman as a human instead of a prize to be had works better?

      No fucking way.

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    People who recommend negging are evil.

    People who recommend looksmaxxing are quite morally questionable because they’re trying to turn dating into a socially darwinistic battle royale, which i guess is in response to the proliferation of dating apps, which they perceive as a socially darwinistic battle royale, in roughly their own words. They also outright lie - no, not everyone likes hunter eyes or sunken cheekbones, tallness, even skinniness, or bulky muscles. This feels like a war against human diversity. And in many cases they pretend these looksmaxxed features just naturally appear when you lead the perfect masculine routine of icebaths, red meat meals and frequent workouts. Which is a lie. (I think stuff like this is why there are articles saying ‘exercise culture is fascist’)

    But back to negging: not only is this encouraged by a plurality of random young people online, but it’s weirdly also pushed hard by hollywood & american television - anyone else noticed that?

    And negging is ALSO endorsed by, that’s right, none other than Jeffrey Epstein. He had a bunch pf emails going “wow, dude, your negging advice totally works! She wants me more than ever!” So yes, it’s safe to say it’s actually evil. Part and parcel of training people to objectify their partners (so is looksmaxxing, because to objectify yourself usually causes you to objectify your partner)

    Rant over.

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        “You have really pretty eyes for someone with hair like that”

        “Wow, your workout routine seems really intense for something who looks like they barely eat”

        “I love your makeup! I bet it took you hours to cover what’s underneath”

        Basically, negging is using backhanded compliments to make someone feel good while also trying to tear them down. You say something nice that makes them feel good, but then say something that makes them feel self-conscious about something else. Very effective narcissistic tactic if used properly which is why the manosphere promotes it. If someone with limited self confidence is met with negging, sometimes they tend to lean into the compliment and use that as a drip of self confidence that they may not get and lean into the person saying it, regardless of the negative addition to it.

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        Saying shitty things to people to make them feel bad about themselves so they will lower their standards enough to fuck you. The kind of thing only an incel could come up with.

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          4 days ago

          Not quite. Negging requires you to say something nice while saying something mean. Negging isn’t just “You’re too ugly to fuck”. It’s balancing compliments with negative connotations to build and break down someone at the same time.