• FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    People who recommend negging are evil.

    People who recommend looksmaxxing are quite morally questionable because they’re trying to turn dating into a socially darwinistic battle royale, which i guess is in response to the proliferation of dating apps, which they perceive as a socially darwinistic battle royale, in roughly their own words. They also outright lie - no, not everyone likes hunter eyes or sunken cheekbones, tallness, even skinniness, or bulky muscles. This feels like a war against human diversity. And in many cases they pretend these looksmaxxed features just naturally appear when you lead the perfect masculine routine of icebaths, red meat meals and frequent workouts. Which is a lie. (I think stuff like this is why there are articles saying ‘exercise culture is fascist’)

    But back to negging: not only is this encouraged by a plurality of random young people online, but it’s weirdly also pushed hard by hollywood & american television - anyone else noticed that?

    And negging is ALSO endorsed by, that’s right, none other than Jeffrey Epstein. He had a bunch pf emails going “wow, dude, your negging advice totally works! She wants me more than ever!” So yes, it’s safe to say it’s actually evil. Part and parcel of training people to objectify their partners (so is looksmaxxing, because to objectify yourself usually causes you to objectify your partner)

    Rant over.

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      I think stuff like this is why there are articles saying ‘exercise culture is fascist’

      Probably plays a part of it, but the main reason why is because fascism has always been obsessed with aesthetics, individualism, and the concept of übermenschen. Much of our modern health & wellness industry is focused more on aesthetics than actual health outcomes. A lot of it can be traced directly back to the eugenics movement in the 1920s.

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        Saying shitty things to people to make them feel bad about themselves so they will lower their standards enough to fuck you. The kind of thing only an incel could come up with.

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          Not quite. Negging requires you to say something nice while saying something mean. Negging isn’t just “You’re too ugly to fuck”. It’s balancing compliments with negative connotations to build and break down someone at the same time.

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        8 days ago

        “You have really pretty eyes for someone with hair like that”

        “Wow, your workout routine seems really intense for something who looks like they barely eat”

        “I love your makeup! I bet it took you hours to cover what’s underneath”

        Basically, negging is using backhanded compliments to make someone feel good while also trying to tear them down. You say something nice that makes them feel good, but then say something that makes them feel self-conscious about something else. Very effective narcissistic tactic if used properly which is why the manosphere promotes it. If someone with limited self confidence is met with negging, sometimes they tend to lean into the compliment and use that as a drip of self confidence that they may not get and lean into the person saying it, regardless of the negative addition to it.