• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    There is no “AI”. Generated art is generated by computers created and programmed by humans.

    Also art is subjective. Both these views are absurdly absolutist. Reality is gray.

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    9 hours ago

    If you wont drink the contents of the tray under the beer taps, you just hate beer. Its an infinite mashup of all the best beer ever made.

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      It was always such a confusing disappointment that vibrant colours inevitably devolved into turd brown. Entropy apparently does not spare our feelings.

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      Thank you. I make it a very annoying habit to never call these things “AI” and correct others if they do.

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        Timely anecdote!

        Yesterday my son asked me what AI means, and if it meant something is fake. He’s young so I didn’t go into the LLM distinction, just defined how “artificial” means yes it’s fake, and “AI generated” just means they asked a computer to make it.

        It reminds me of when everything was “cloud cloud cloud!!!” It’s just other people’s computers!

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        They are diffusion models with a language model to understand prompts. What all of the have in common is that they are generative AI.

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          Again, they are not AI. We have not come up with an “AI” yet. What they are, are Machine-Learning, or “ML” models. They are not intelligent.

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            I can’t imagine dying on this hill. People have been using the word AI to refer to things that aren’t real artificial intelligence for literally decades. It’s the phrase people use for when a computer does something that mimics intelligence. How come I never hear you people talk about how video game NPCs don’t have AI?

            “Actually, that character’s programming is a form of virtual intelligence, not artificial intelligence.”

            ~literally nobody in history

          • cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zone
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            Is machine learning the problem, though? Like, if someone wrote a program for automating subtitle creation, or at least helping with the tedious aspects of it, and it improved the more you used it, would that be an issue on it’s own? I think that’s why people differentiate between AI, LLM, and ML, because we need ways to distinguish tech that’s being misused/is harmful in it’s current forms vs. tech that is inherently evil in concept alone.

            It’s confusing bc nobody fully understands which terms refers to what, myself included, so everyone uses each term for the wrong thing.

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            7 hours ago

            why should we stop using a term that has been used for at least a decade to refer to things much “dumber” than something like gpt 3.5

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                if people use a word to refer to something for a long time, it means that that something is included in the words definition

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              Because the name is corpo pr speak to make it sound better than it is. We should not be repeating their lies.

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        8 hours ago

        No
        LLMs stand for Large Language Models
        They both are generative AI, but that term also includes, as far as i know, vocaloid software too

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    If you love AI you probably hate art and expression…

    If OOP actually loved art and expression, they’d be supporting actual artists making actual art, rather than putting their weight behind the no-effort jungle juice of art AI produces.

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    as a fan of mashup culture the first argument is so weird. what makes mashup art interesting is the ability to recognise similarities the constituent parts and the artistry of merging them. ai art is more like a blender. you can make interesting things with the tech but it requires an actual artistic talent as well as careful planning both before and after. pouring in whatever will just net you beige goo.

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      This. I do appreciate a good collage or remix/electronic music with lots of samples. And they’re nothing like AI slop