Germany has deported 20 people to Afghanistan on what was the first flight directly agreed with the Taliban since the militants’ return to power in 2021

  • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    The 20 being deported are convicted rapists and drug traffickers who were in Germany illegally. These are not the people you want to defend.

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        20 hours ago

        What human rights are being violated here? Immigrating to Germany or any country is not a right, it’s a privilege. These individuals went to Germany illegally, then committed serious crimes, were found guilty, and now they’re getting deported back to their country because they longer qualify for asylum. This is like the most basic and most common sense immigration policy to have, calling it a human rights violation is asinine.

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          20 hours ago

          You are being incredibly shady. What do you think the Taliban will do to those people?

          If someone is in Germany and is convicted of a crime then they have to go to prison in Germany.

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            19 hours ago

            Probably nothing. This is the Taliban we’re talking about. They don’t care about things crimes committed against non believers. All 20 of the deported are Afghani men, as long as they show loyalty to the Taliban, they’ll probably be left alone.

            If someone is in Germany and is convicted of a crime then they have to go to prison in Germany.

            My understanding is that if they’re convicted of a crime in Germany, they serve their sentence first and then get deported right after.

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            19 hours ago

            Here’s what article 14 says:

            Article 14

            1. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

            2. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

            The principle behind this article only applies to genuine cases of political prosecution, where the person seeking refuge is doing so in good faith. Countries can and often do reject asylum cases where the person seeking asylum either lies on their application or commits serious crimes inside the country they’re seeking refuge in. I don’t see these individuals being deported as a violation of this article.

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      20 hours ago

      They deported criminals, but do I really have to explain that those too, have rights? Rights that will be violated the second they set foot on Afghan soil?

      You can’t just handwaved rights away when things get uncomfortable. Rights are there for everyone or they aren’t. If they can deport criminals to war zones or places where said criminals may face execution or torture, they can do that with you too

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        19 hours ago

        If they can deport criminals to war zones or places where said criminals may face execution or torture, they can do that with you too

        But Afghanistan isn’t a war zone anymore and there’s no evidence that these individuals are going to be tortured. If there was credible evidence that this deportations would lead to state sanctioned torture, then you would be right, and these deportations should be halted. However, Germany has made similar deportations in the previous years and there hasn’t been any reported incidents of torture of any of the deportees.

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      20 hours ago

      How do you know they were in Germany illegaly, anyway? The article does not state that?

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        19 hours ago

        Germany had similar deportations before, and the previous ones consisted of foreign nationals who committed serious crimes in Germany, got their asylum cases rejected, and we’re sent back to the country they came from.