• nymnympseudonym@piefed.socialOPEnglish
    19·
    15 days ago

    not just illegal – arguably like every US action since WWII it’s not legally even a war

    But the reason it’s as f–ed up as it is is because Trump went in without

    • NATO which has things like minesweepers and actual working littoral combat ships
    • Getting the needed US aircraft carriers into place before telling Iranians to revolt
    • Getting the needed US LCS minesweepers into place (oops they are both under maintenance RN)
    • Getting support ahead of time from allies like Europe, Japan, S Korea, GCC states, all of whom could be exerting economic, political, and even military support RN
    • Having a fucking plan for how to reopen the Strait which every State Department policywonk and pre-Trump Navy Admiral knew would be Iran’s first move
    • Having a fucking plan for shaheds and USV water drones which are now granting Iran naval control and are built decentralized on the cheap in basements, you are not likely to bomb them all
    • Aqarius@lemmy.world
      6·
      15 days ago

      It may weasel out of being a war by US law, but by international law it’s no less a war than the Russian “special military operation”.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
      72·
      15 days ago

      Uh… this war would not be less fucked up if it was run more competently. It’d be worse, in fact, as can be seen in Iraq.

      • nymnympseudonym@piefed.socialOPEnglish
        4·
        14 days ago

        Getting rid of the religious fascist terror-exporting state of Iran is a worthy goal.

        Blowing everything up is not a useful nor moral path toward that goal.

    • AppleTea@lemmy.zip
      2·
      14 days ago

      Getting the needed US aircraft carriers into place before telling Iranians to revolt

      Didn’t they bring two additional aircraft carriers into the region like a month before the “preemptive” strike that kicked this off? Also heard rumblings that the US has been moving quite a lot of aircraft into the region since like December

      • nymnympseudonym@piefed.socialOPEnglish
        1·
        14 days ago

        One was already in place. But was supposed to go in for maintenance like a month ago.

        The other had to be sent in from IIRC the Pacific, much like the ship full of Marines currently on its way (that should have been in place a month ago if there was any chance they’d be needed…)

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
      1·
      14 days ago

      NATO which has things like minesweepers and actual working littoral combat ships

      NATO wasn’t going to help after he spent the last year threatening Greenland and Canada with invasion.

      Getting support ahead of time from allies like Europe

      See above.

      Having a fucking plan for shaheds

      There was no way to stop it. No plan was feasible. He did it anyway.