Oh, like kill 50 million + citizens through internal war and poor planning.
Take away individual liberties and develop the most insane surveillance culture in the world.
Commit to a slow burn genocide of Muslims.
Pump out more billionaires than the US for the last two years while massively increasing the income gap.
They did raise hundreds of millions of people out of abject poverty so you have got to give them that. But then immediately take it away when you learn they are the fourth/fifth largest supplier of arms in the world.
The CIA doesn’t give a shit about Genocide. This has been detailed by Amnesty International and other human rights groups and researchers since the concentration camps began.
Aside from all the politic shit. They tried to end my existence via the enforcement of the One Child Policy. I was the 2nd child in my family, they nearly ended me.
Thank god I got lucky and somehow lived.
Not the user you responded to, but I got a vendetta against PRC, it’s personal.
My mom told me the first hand account of how women would just get forced abortions.
Like there are lots of women that was pregnant with their 2nd unapproved child, then the government found out and they’d force you go get an abortion.
My mom managed to hide me till like month 8 of the pregnancy, then like someone found out but they turned one eye blind and didn’t report it.
I mean I don’t exactly understand the full story either, its not like mom wrote a diary on it.
Basically it was a combination of many factors that lead to me surviving.
There was an issue of jurisdictions, they mostly left it local governments to enforce, mom was from Taishan and she was working in Guangzhou when she had me, and she was supposed to submit a pregnancy test every 3 months and send results back to their hometown. But mom told me she got another woman to take the pregnancy test for her under her name.
So like, the people working for the Guangzhou government didn’t enforce it as harshly because she wasn’t registered in their Hukou.
Perhaps a god exists and they intervened? idk, not really that religious…
I barely lived, and yes there’s a fine, like somewhere in the ¥20000-¥30000 rmb which was a lot in the 2002s.
That’s a strategy but it will inevitably lead to war because the most populous countries will conquer their neighbors to feed their population. So all countries have to promote having children which accelerates the arrival of the conflict.
invading Iraq twice, bombing Iran, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, bombing Yugoslavia, arming a genocide in Guatemala, invading Afghanistan, invading Vietnam, bombing Cambodia and Laos, funding a genocide in Indonesia, funding a genocide in East Timor, funding a genocide in Gaza
invading Poland, invading Finland, occupying the Baltic states, crushing the Hungarian Revolution, invading Czechoslovakia, invading Afghanistan, arming the Derg regime in Ethiopia, funding proxy wars in Angola and Mozambique, intervening in Moldova, intervening in Tajikistan, bombing Chechnya, invading Georgia, invading Ukraine, funding separatists in the Donbas, bombing Syria, arming militias in Libya, funding mercenaries in the Central African Republic, funding mercenaries in Mali
Wait, are Poland and Czechoslovakia during WWII? I don’t feel comfortable putting those two on the list (I didn’t put “invade France” for the US either, which would be absolutely bizarre). I’m also going to filter out the separatist one, bc I didn’t include KLA either for America, for example.
Actually, writing this, I notice I would have to vet all of these one by one before I would feel comfortable adding them to my comment, and I don’t have time for that. I did promise to add them to the list, so as a compromise I propose I just add a link to your comment, with the explicit caveat that I’m not sure if I agree with all of it. Would that work for you?
Well, China didn’t invade anyone in the last decade because they’ve already annexed the territories they wanted. It’s not like Uyghurs and Tibetans stopped getting genocided because their territories are already internationally recognised as part of the PRC.
And they do fund multiple conflicts outside of their own country, like the aforementioned invasion of Ukraine.
If that the case let’s look who vote with evil things in the UN it’s a clear record where countries stand. This will put UK, France, Belgium, Germany, Canada, Australia, India, Argentina at the top of the list.
Wth what did China do
It does seem a bit unfair to include them and not India
As an Indian young adult not too invested in politics, may I please learn why and what for?
As a Canadian, first example that comes to mind is the apparent involvement of a killing in Canada.
But nothing personally against you or any other Indian, same as nothing against any Chinese.
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You know I actually thought about that afterwards.
Oh, like kill 50 million + citizens through internal war and poor planning.
Take away individual liberties and develop the most insane surveillance culture in the world.
Commit to a slow burn genocide of Muslims.
Pump out more billionaires than the US for the last two years while massively increasing the income gap.
They did raise hundreds of millions of people out of abject poverty so you have got to give them that. But then immediately take it away when you learn they are the fourth/fifth largest supplier of arms in the world.
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Oh look someone who denies the enormous loss of life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
https://www.sciencespo.fr/mass-violence-war-massacre-resistance/en/document/chronology-mass-killings-during-chinese-cultural-revolution-1966-1976.html
The CIA doesn’t give a shit about Genocide. This has been detailed by Amnesty International and other human rights groups and researchers since the concentration camps began.
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Found the human right’s abuser.
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Says the guy denying human rights abuses.
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Aside from all the politic shit. They tried to end my existence via the enforcement of the One Child Policy. I was the 2nd child in my family, they nearly ended me.
Thank god I got lucky and somehow lived.
Not the user you responded to, but I got a vendetta against PRC, it’s personal.
I thought the penalty was a fine?
That’s if they don’t catch you.
My mom told me the first hand account of how women would just get forced abortions.
Like there are lots of women that was pregnant with their 2nd unapproved child, then the government found out and they’d force you go get an abortion.
My mom managed to hide me till like month 8 of the pregnancy, then like someone found out but they turned one eye blind and didn’t report it.
I mean I don’t exactly understand the full story either, its not like mom wrote a diary on it.
Basically it was a combination of many factors that lead to me surviving.
There was an issue of jurisdictions, they mostly left it local governments to enforce, mom was from Taishan and she was working in Guangzhou when she had me, and she was supposed to submit a pregnancy test every 3 months and send results back to their hometown. But mom told me she got another woman to take the pregnancy test for her under her name.
So like, the people working for the Guangzhou government didn’t enforce it as harshly because she wasn’t registered in their Hukou.
Perhaps a god exists and they intervened? idk, not really that religious…
I barely lived, and yes there’s a fine, like somewhere in the ¥20000-¥30000 rmb which was a lot in the 2002s.
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The west does the same. They don’t call it one child policy but rent.
In your opinion, what would have been the alternative? A bigger population would have made it much more difficult for China to achieve food security.
So by categorically denying my right to existence even though my mom wanted me, its somehow essential to China’s development?
Last I checked, most western countries doesn’t go around snatching women off the streets and performing abortions against their will.
Unless they’re Indigenous.
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How about: Government shouldn’t be able to intervene in family planning
It’s one thing to encourage or discourage births, its a whole other thing to force IUDs, force sterillizarions, forced abortions.
Btw, please don’t take my arguments personal. I like to read your comments on lemmy. I am glad that you got through the system.
So… just a fun day playing Devil’s Advocate, gotcha.
That’s a strategy but it will inevitably lead to war because the most populous countries will conquer their neighbors to feed their population. So all countries have to promote having children which accelerates the arrival of the conflict.
Imagine asking this with a straight face.
Taiwan, among other things.
Oh shit did they invade?
Not to my knowledge, but I’m sure they’d like to and don’t recognize Taiwan as separate from China.
Call me crazy, but that doesn’t feel as bad as
Third one is Israel, got lazy.
You got also lazy with Russia. That list should have been as long as the US one
Feel free to extend it, I’ll edit the comment. Ideally in a pithy format with a pure focus on foreign interference like the US one.
invading Poland, invading Finland, occupying the Baltic states, crushing the Hungarian Revolution, invading Czechoslovakia, invading Afghanistan, arming the Derg regime in Ethiopia, funding proxy wars in Angola and Mozambique, intervening in Moldova, intervening in Tajikistan, bombing Chechnya, invading Georgia, invading Ukraine, funding separatists in the Donbas, bombing Syria, arming militias in Libya, funding mercenaries in the Central African Republic, funding mercenaries in Mali
is it ok?
Wait, are Poland and Czechoslovakia during WWII? I don’t feel comfortable putting those two on the list (I didn’t put “invade France” for the US either, which would be absolutely bizarre). I’m also going to filter out the separatist one, bc I didn’t include KLA either for America, for example.
Actually, writing this, I notice I would have to vet all of these one by one before I would feel comfortable adding them to my comment, and I don’t have time for that. I did promise to add them to the list, so as a compromise I propose I just add a link to your comment, with the explicit caveat that I’m not sure if I agree with all of it. Would that work for you?
Yeah, they just focus on the countries next to them mostly (and even then there’s been sponsored shit stirring in Africa, too)
Well, China didn’t invade anyone in the last decade because they’ve already annexed the territories they wanted. It’s not like Uyghurs and Tibetans stopped getting genocided because their territories are already internationally recognised as part of the PRC.
And they do fund multiple conflicts outside of their own country, like the aforementioned invasion of Ukraine.
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I definitely think you’re right in that there are degrees to the evil these countries are perpetrating on the innocent.
I feel like the OP was just saying fuck X country who does evil, which is far from the complete list, haha.
If that the case let’s look who vote with evil things in the UN it’s a clear record where countries stand. This will put UK, France, Belgium, Germany, Canada, Australia, India, Argentina at the top of the list.
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