Picking a fight with Hasan Piker while midterms are gearing up is the dumbest fucking idea. The consultant class really is a problem when it comes to meaningful change. (TikTok screencap)

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    3 days ago

    Fucking purity testing bullshit, fully functional and operational at the highest levels. The left will purity test itself into extinction if it doesn’t realize it’s happening.

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      3 days ago

      Precisely. The right will vote for anyone no matter how terrible they are and we’re busy self defeating.

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        Yeah, as soon as you say “look the Democrats suck but it’s the best chance we have to not have a Republican in office right now, with how things are now” you get jumped by people going NO NEVER VOTE DEMOCRAT ONLY THIRD PARTY YOU’RE A SHILL BLUE NO MATTER WHO IS BULLSHIT BOTH SIDES ARE CAPITALIST AND THE SAME

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      I don’t expect purity but I expect the ability to self-reflect and grow when personal behaviors are questioned by others who share a substantial amount of your world views. Instead of exploring his relationship with his dog (owner/accessory), he doubled down and his fanbase closed ranks to defend a behavior a lot of people find abhorrent. Treating animals like property and setting unrealistic expectations for their compliance while you use them as a backdrop is not a leftist virtue. A loyal audience is not there to normalize abusive behavior and run with the narrative “any questioning of what happened is a right wing attempt to undermine him”. A person can talk all the talk they want, if their walk doesn’t match the tone and they cannot accept that their views may occasionally need growth, fuck ‘em. We don’t need leftist demagogues, we need leaders and speakers with character who aren’t afraid to confront themselves and their beliefs.

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        Instead of exploring his relationship with his dog (owner/accessory)

        All of this comment points to you needing to gain some emotional maturity. You sound as if you’ve either never owned a dog or have only ever owned already trained dogs.

        I can grab a piece of paper loudly and my dog will crumple as if I’ve beaten her every day of her life. Never hit her once. Never shocked her with a collar, only ever used the beeps and vibration. All I need to do is pick up the remote and she will cower. Mind you, I shower this dog with love every day and again — I’ve never once hurt her besides maybe stepping on her tail.

        I think you need to exhibit some personal growth here, tbh. If your reasons for disliking Hasan stem from this one incident vs the blatant hypocrisy he’d already shown (like purchasing a mansion) — you need to rethink some things.

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          It’s disappointing that you discredit criticism of harm to another living creature while considering materialism like a house a bigger hypocrisy. They’re not mutually exclusive.

          And you’re correct, I have never “owned” a dog. I’ve shared my life journey with many, but I didn’t “own” them. They’re not property even if the law and society view them as such. You conditioned your dog to cower at the sight of you picking up a remote? For fuck’s sake, you conditioned your dog to cower at a behavior that resulted in no physical consequence, just the idea it could result in physical consequence. What the fuck is wrong with you!?!

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            Yeah I would recommend getting back into an English class, maybe just like start all over from the beginning. Get a fresh start, refresh your brain. Maybe you’ll be able to learn how to read.

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              All I need to do is pick up the remote and she will cower.

              Oh, I read what you wrote. You never hit your dog. Instead, you figured out what she was afraid of and used it to create a trigger to gain compliance. It’s no different than a parent threatening to hit their kid if they don’t stop. Why, when she cowers and shows fear, do you not cease the action that causes her distress? Why don’t you redirect the behavior you want her to cease into a behavior you’d like and can reward with positivity? Because compliance through fear is quicker and easier. No wonder Piker’s got so many apologists. This is how we end up with kid fuckers in office, the support base is up to the same shit as their guy and will defend their worst behavior so they can justify it at home. You sicken me.

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                Holy moly, you are nuts.

                I’m sure your dogs run rampant all over you, no I will not be taking any of your advice. By the way, the action I was referring to was picking the remote up off the table. Simply to move it. Much like crumpling the paper was to throw it away. The dog is a skittish dog, and you’re fuckin nuts. You’re the exact kind of nutjob that probably freaked out and virtue signaled all over when Alinity ‘threw’ her cat.

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                  Doubling down on the self-awareness that your action causes an irrational fear in your dog but that you would rather ignore the behavior than work her through it. She fears your tv remote because instead of taking the time to shape her behavior, you slapped a vibration collar on her to scare her when she behaved contrary to your expectations. The unintended consequence of a vibrate and beep collar is that now your dog is afraid of tv remotes and the sound crumpling paper.

                  The dogs I live with behave because I defined my expectations and set boundaries with patience, repetition, and reward for compliance. Using fear and force will get compliance, but it’s hollow, and as you’ve found out creates skittish dogs. It’s the tired old mentality that a little “tough love” is the solution. But by all means, keep justifying scare tactics and discomfort as tools for dog training. Holy moly, you are cruel.