This is just blatantly false, men’s rights do vary wildly state by state. I get what this is saying and I agree with the message but presenting a good message behind a lie doesn’t make it any less of a lie.
Which state is it illegal to get a vasectomy?
Which state is it illegal to get a tubal ligation?
Well I don’t know, but have you had six separate $150+ appointments with your doc who asks you questions ranging from “well what does your boyfriend of two weeks want” to “are you really sure?” to “we’re going to have to ask you attend this six week course on why it’s important to produce a legacy before we can sign off on this. Then we’ll see what your insurance has to say”
The topic was illegal procedures, the person I replied to was comparing a vasectomy to abortion by asking which states it is illegal in.
The comparison isn’t valid. A vasectomy isn’t remotely the same procedure as an abortion.
Well I don’t know
You could check before posting so that you would know.
If you did, you would find out that there are 0 states in the United States where either tubal ligation or vasectomies are illegal.
I do agree that the access to care situation is shit and caused by sexist lawmakers and doctors.
But, just because you agree with someone, doesn’t mean you can’t tell them that they’re making irrational arguments. If people want to continue to push for change, it’s important that everyone is capable of understanding the issues and know how to argue them effectively.
Making outrage baiting statements are good for social media engagement, but they’re antithetical to convincing people to change.
I am also very supportive of women’s rights but lying is not helpful.
Honestly the point that it tries to make is not the point that it makes either. It could be understood as “let’s ban abortion everywhere”, and I don’t think that is the point that it tries to make.
I am in favor of bodily autonomy and I don’t care what the law currently is anywhere, it should be a given.
I am also very supportive of women’s rights but lying is not helpful.
Worth knowing: although they attract a lot of anti-feminist losers, the “men’s rights” activists are absolutely correct that men do not universally have the same support programs or even legal presumptions that women do. These can vary widely from state to state and even from court to court.
It’s not nearly as big an issue as “they want her to die from a miscarriage”, but “they presume he’s the inferior parent” or “they presume he caused the violence even if he’s the one bleeding” are also sexist oppression.
(Comparisons to the anti-woke “all lives matter” bullshit are apt – men can and should recognize that relatively minor slights and injustices are not nearly as urgent as denying pregnant humans life-saving care!)
if they assume he’s the inferior parent, why do the men win custody almost every fucking time they try, whereas the woman involved gets the kid dumped on her, completely, with no child support orders unless she fights for them, anytime the guy doesn’t want anything to do with the kid he knocked her up with?
Men winning custody? Surely you jest
