They fact that America has no avenue for ‘vote of no confidence’ and government dissolution is astounding. Still, it’s a good wake up call for the rest of the world to break ties and rethink alliances.
Actually we do have a mechanism for legally throwing everything out. It requires 2/3rds of all state governments to vote in favor of government reform. Then all of congress a the executive gets recalled and new elections are held across the country.
I’m sure it seemed like a great idea when there were 13 states. Unfortunately, we can’t currently get some states to agree that pasteurizing milk or having fluoride in water is a good thing, so I think it’s a bit late to try to get 33 states to agree to reforming the government.
Pfft flouride… We can’t even get all the states to agree that women are people that deserve full rights… Daily reminder that Equal Rights Amendment still isn’t in effect.
It always amazes me that the anti-vaccers, raw milk supporters, flat-earthers, you-name-it, don’t slowly (or quickly) die out, leaving us all better off. Guess they breed faster than they stick hands into wood chippers.
As far as anti-vaxxers and raw milk people go, despite not trusting modern medical science boy will they use it when their lives are on the line. Hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance at it’s finest
Sorry, your AI is hallucinating a bit. No such mechanism exists as you describe it.
However, 2/3 of State legislatures can vote to have a Constitutional Convention for proposing amendments, any one of which would require 3/4 of states to approve in order to come into effect (just like any other amendment). This mechanism was conceived as a way to allow States to enact amendments without Congressional approval.
And before you say “Hey, that’s a great idea”, know that the batshit crazy Conservatives have been trying to call for one for years, because since everything is done by state, they have a decided advantage. The large states lean Democratic, and the 12 most populous states have more than 50% of the population. That means that the other 38 states could ratify amendments without a majority of the population behind them.
And to make things worse, although it is limited to “amendments”, there is nothing preventing a State Convention from ripping the whole thing up and starting over, without any of the nitpicky amendments that the Right hates (like freedom of speech, the press, religion, women voting, etc.), as long as 38 states agree to do it. That would likely prompt the 12 states on the losing end of the deal to attempt to secede rather than submit.
Instead of accusing me of using shitty autocorrect, you could also assume that I remember high school civics class from 15 years ago, where this was explained to me.
Was my teacher wrong? Possibly.
Am I offended you would think I would use an AI, definitely.
Yeah, in actual democracies a government behaving like this one would have been dissolved within 6 months
Perhaps you should read about our processes more
Well… I’m watching the shit show from the sidelines and in practice, regardless of whatever is written (full disclosure, I haven’t read it nor do I really want to because it looks like a really, really high bar), there appears to be no double dissolution procedures.
This is because you have someone with very clear mental impairment still sitting as President doing all sorts of nonsense such as going against the very constitution you all swear by.
Further, he lost the popular vote but still won the election. Absolutely astounding.
Military Leaders: Seriously he’s fucking crazy. Batshit. We can’t work with him at all. Period.
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Military Leaders: Seriously he’s fucking crazy. Batshit. We can’t work with him at all. Period. But still, let’s follow his orders and bomb innocent civilians and schoolgirls, the corrupt fascist pedophile is the commander in chief afterall.
FTFY.
They’ve always killed innocent children no matter who was President, why would they stop now?
Yeah they have all the power, they could just coup him if they actually cared.
And are concerned… lol
Dear military leaders, You swore an oath to protect the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. Please go ahead and arrest this man, his cabinet, all Israeli backed politicians, ice, everyone in the Epstein files, all Mossad agents, everyone involved in Dodge and everyone involved in 4th amendment violating mass surveillance
Why are you letting Ford and Chevy off the hook?
They said the same thing about Hitler, he still managed to genocide millions. But far be it from Western society to learn from the past, no we erase it and pretend it never happened.
“Those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it” is supposed to be cautionary, but for MAGA, it’s a game plan.
Nah they learned from the past. They took notes.
Exactly. To them the mistake to learn from isn’t the fascism itself; it’s that the fascism was defeated.
That’s why they’re targeting Europe as well.
Lol what the fuck are you talking about? Have you seen any pictures of the protests here?
Countless people are aware, and literally screaming it not only at passerby’s, but also at the actual fascists roaming or streets (ICE).
“Western” workers are furious, and loud right now. Why would you belittle that effort? Why downplay the struggle taking place, that is claiming the lives of those who care enough to stand up against this?
The people trying, and failing, to erase this are called conservatives. They are republicans, MAGA, and/or Christofascists. Name and shame, everyone.
Sorry, but the US ‘protests’ are a joke. You don’t protest by dancing and cosplaying in front of a camera. You protest by shutting down infrastructure, in a peaceful but organised and disciplined manner, until your demands are satisfied.
I understand that there are limits to real protest in the US, and of course it would be silly to demand that anyone risk being shot. But don’t call a party a ‘protest’.
You protest by shutting down infrastructure, in a peaceful but organised and disciplined manner, until your demands are satisfied.
You mean like a government shutdown?
In America, we can’t just walk off the job, because we don’t have unions, workers protections, or a worker-friendly government, like European countries. Our employers will just fire us if we try to organize a General Strike for a day. Besides, do you really think the Sociopathic MAGA party is going to have empathy for the self-inflicted pain of General Strikers, and change anything? They’ll just laugh, literally.
But in America, we can shut down the government and hurt THEM, and it works, as long as our elected representatives can show the backbone that the citizens demand. Last Fall, the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries ended the Shutdown when it hit the airports, and became inconvenient for the Epstein Class, earning the anger of all of America, and probably dooming any chance they have of continuing in a leadership position after the Midterms. Today, they seemed to have learned their lesson, and they are holding tough on a partial shutdown that has denied ICE it’s operating money, and it has succeeded in slowing them down a lot. A one-day General Strike would not have succeeded.
What works in Europe won’t work in America, and vice versa. Why should we do a General Strike that hurts us, not them, and won’t work, when we have the option of a Government Shutdown that hurts them, and not us, and has proven to work?
If you are protesting against the government, then you need to shut down all / most economic activity. Usually you do this by blocking roads, railway lines, etc., and by marching in large numbers. I get that this is difficult in the US because you’ll get shot, but dancing and partying do not hurt the politicians or their owners, and so is just a waste of time.
Also I said nothing about going on strike, where did you get that from?
Also I said nothing about going on strike, where did you get that from?
You said:
You protest by shutting down infrastructure, in a peaceful but organised and disciplined manner, until your demands are satisfied.
That sure sounds like a General Strike to me, and we are hearing constant calls for a General Strike, so it would be normal to assume that’s what you were talking about.
I responded with my standard response to Europeans who don’t understand that the work environment is far different in America, and a General Strike simply won’t work, for numerous reasons.
In America, we have to know our enemy, and customize our protests to match. Right now, we view our enemy as clowns, which they are, but they see themselves as badass bullies, and nothing pisses off bullies more than laughing in their faces, and proving to them that you aren’t afraid of them. Intimidation is their biggest weapon, and if that doesn’t work, they usually have nothing to back it up.
They want us frightened, sad, intimidated, obedient. So showing MAGA that we don’t fear them, that we think they are huge stupid losers, is an enormous psychological blow, to people with very damaged, very fragile psyches. These are people with massive mental illnesses and personality disorders, who think that their stolen MIGHT, which they have no idea how to wield, should be enough to make us obey. Instead of being intimidated, their enemy is throwing No Kings rallies that grow bigger and bigger, and is scaring the shit out of THEM.
They think we should be frightened of them, and we are literally laughing in their faces, and scaring them in return. Can you imagine how apoplectic they must get in the halls of the West Wing when they watch that video? I’d love to be there for it. I’ll bet Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller gets really savage!
In the future, if MAGA decides, in their virtuosic incompetence, that it’s time to start shooting protesters en masse, then the fun stops, and we will apply a different kind of resistance. Hopefully, we never make it past this humiliation stage.
I’m not European, but I get your point about each country having a different political system. What works in one country may not work in another. But what is common among most countries is a shared economic system. Whoever your politicians are, whatever they claim to believe, the vast majority of them are the pawns of the billionaires. Now, going for the politicians might get some results. Those individual politicians might lose the next election, or get kicked from their parties. But if you want long-term change, you’ll have to target their owners. Make ‘line go down’. For that, your protests will need to hit their infrastructure. Of course, whether you want to do this, and whether the risks are worth the rewards, are for you to decide.
Comments like this are useless
Have you seen the protests we display on the weekends when the weather is nice? Huh? The us protester…
Shutdown the economy you dummies. Protest when it hurts where it hurts. Are there any consequences for these protests? Or are you just hoping people will finally change their minds and stop voting for single stupid issues like laughs weird and other bullshit
What Europeans don’t understand is that we have different tools in America. A General Strike will work in Europe, where there are unions, strong worker protections, and worker friendly governments. When Europeans go on a General Strike, their governments listen.
But in America, if you attempt a General Strike, they’ll just fire you, and it’s totally legal. Go ahead, be the guy who advocates for a General Strike at work. You’ll be the guy looking for a new job, while the rest of the workers get back to work.
However, in America, we can shut down the entire government, or even just part of it, and as long as our elected leaders hold strong, it actually works to force the government to change.
Why do a General Strike, which costs us money, possibly our jobs, and hurts US? Does anyone think that MAGA will see Dems going through self-inflicted suffering, and feel bad enough to change? The only thing that they’ll understand is if we inflict pain on THEM, and nothing hurts them more than taking away their money.
Right now, we have denied ICE their funding, and they have been forced to greatly reduce their activities. The government shutdown is working far more effectively than a single day General Strike world have been.
General Strikes work in Europe, not America, and government shutdown work in America, but not Europe. We’ll keep using the tools that work for us.
i really hope you guys find a way through this! but i am afraid that the profound changes that have been made inside your administration at all levels will be close to impossible to reverse and same for the international stage. more to it, the next administration if it is a saner one will spend most of its time reverting these changes and more than likely will do so while neglecting the mounting issues that people face. this will lead to more distrust in the system and some other nutjob will come into power… the longer this takes the harder will be to get out. I know because we have this issue, Hungary managed to get out of something similar after 16 years and it is still early days to really say they changed course. Slovakia is there now. And on and on.
good luck and clear minds!
We will definitely have some rebuilding to do, but that can be an advantage, as long as we can control that rebuild to go in the proper direction.
These are unprecedented times, and they will require unprecedented solutions. I hope our next generation of Reps and Senators are courageous enough to fight for a positive future for Americans, and not just the wealthy.
You’re clearly a child who has never known responsibility or hunger. Let the adults talk and work on this one.
Ok buddy! You do you. To be honest if US wasn’t that important for global order I wouldn’t care at all. But your stupid decisions affect everyone and we are looking at your choices and we cannot figure out what was in your head when you put this orange turd president for the second time…
Racism Misogyny Christianity
Same reasons as the first time.
Quick questions from someone who wants sane government to return some stability to the world, and begin prosecutions on Trump and his fuck-knuckles:
What have the protests accomlpished so far? What’s changed because of them?
Honest questions!
The people trying, and failing, to erase this are called conservatives. They are republicans, MAGA, and/or Christofascists. Name and shame, everyone.
The people who are trying to erase this are everyone who goes to their job as a cop, in the military, with ICE, anyone in the defense industry, anyone who enables the machine and everyone in their lives who do not hold them accountable.
that is certainly a way to interpret my comment
Translation: Trump is ready to go nuclear and his fascist panel only want to play military ops to enrich themselves.
FOX: “Roll some B-footage of Trump at Mar-a-lago last year.”
Someone should do the same for all of his duties.
