• artyom@piefed.social
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    17 hours ago

    Not gonna lie, Linux is a pretty big learning curve, but it’s worth it to get away from Apple and (especially) Microslop Winblows. It’s the only OS that respects the user.

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      16 hours ago

      IMO switching to Linux as a new user is no harder than switching from Windows to Mac, which I think is something more people can identify with and aren’t afraid of, for the most part.

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        16 hours ago

        Couldn’t disagree more. Having to learn how to use the command line to complete basic tasks is a huge learning curve.

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          15 hours ago

          what basic task have you run into that requires the command line? have you tried Mint? my 83 year old dad has been on mint for over a year with no complaints, and I don’t think he even knows how to open the terminal . . .

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            15 hours ago

            I’m just not interested in rehashing this conversation. Anyone who has used Linux already knows, even if they won’t admit it. Being dishonest about it isn’t helping anyone. I used Windows for 30 years and never touched any kind of CLI in that time. I did use it on MacOS but only for Homebrew because there’s no other GUI alternative.

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              11 hours ago

              OK, if your talking homebrew on Mac, then your not just doing “basic” things. yes, for power users on Linux, we need to use the CLI. For actual basic things (browsing, word processing, consuming media) you absolutely don’t need to touch it at all on many “noob” distros.

              So claiming that there’s a steep learning curve for basic things is going to turn off new users, who would be perfectly fine never looking at a terminal to do what they need

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                7 hours ago

                if your talking homebrew on Mac, then your not just doing “basic” things

                Using homebrew on Mac is obviously not a “basic thing on Linux”.

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          i think it heavily depends on the person’s use case. if someone is doing web browsing and maybe making a couple word documents, the learning curve is negligible. also, you dont need to use BASH to do most things, it’s 2026. most anything you can think of, you can do via GUI.

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            14 hours ago

            It doesn’t matter what the usecase is if the Wifi or speakers or camera don’t work. Or if all the icons and text are so small as to be nearly impossible to read.

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              12 hours ago

              That Is almost always a hardware compatibility issue, if you get a machine that is specifically meant for Linux, even the jankiest of distros will not have all but the last issue, and for the last one if fractional scaling is causing issues just double your scale.

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                7 hours ago

                if you get a machine that is specifically meant for Linux

                LOL those are all like $2k

                if fractional scaling is causing issues just double your scale.

                I don’t think you understand what this is…

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                  3 hours ago

                  LOL those are all like $2k

                  I’ll give you that if you want it officially supported they tend to come with those price tags, although i did find this one which is officially supporting linux at the midrange price tag Laptop, I mainly mean that the individual components are supported which you could determine through a little bit of research, but generally speaking if you don’t want to pay the premium, you should be prepared for a little bit of trouble shooting, but normally it is only for the webcam nowadays. Overall, I have changed the os on many of my laptops, and they have always either had no missing functionality after installation or had a forum that explained how to fix its issues that was a one and done fix.

                  if fractional scaling is causing issues just double your scale.> I don’t think you understand what this is…

                  Could you be more specific about what you mean? I don’t think I claimed anything that would be out of the purview of fractional scaling.

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      10 hours ago

      Lol what I was using Linux when I was a kid. Other than learning how to use terminal commands and a package manager occasionally it’s hardly any different from other OSs