• robocall@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Libertarian communism? Does that mean every business is a CO-OP?

    How would you prevent the state from favoring one CO-OP over the other and creating a co-op monopoly by favoritism?

    Sorry, not trying to attack you. I’m a radical leftist and libertarian communism is sort of the most Lemmy thing I’ve ever heard.

    • rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      Communism means the abolition of money, the market, and the state.

      Market socialists/mutualists/whatever are not communist. They have different explanations for how they intend to dodge the flaws of markets.

      Most anarchists will be communist in their economic views.

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        6 days ago

        Plus, private property isn’t a thing under this system.

        Well, you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.

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            4 days ago

            China doesn’t claim to be communist, “yet”.

            China … [is] socialist

            No it isn’t, Socialism “with Chinese Characteristics” is doing some extremely heavy lifting.

            It’s a capitalist state, pretty evidently. The government having state run companies doesn’t negate this. Further, those state run companies are not beholden to their workers, nor the people at large.

            Without worker control, that’s not socialism.

            Workers unions are functionally illegal (the state run one, most certainly does not count as it doesn’t authorise strikes in almost all circumstances, as far as I’m aware).

            Look up China Tobacco, a great example of how just having industries nationalised, doesn’t make something socialist.

            China is just as bad as the rest of the capitalist nations, they’re just bad in their own unique ways.

            All the cool comrades know that “socialism” in the mould of Stalinist USSR or China isn’t a great model.

            Inb4 USA is worse! - nah, they’re both capitalist states. I’m not a “China Bad” believer, much of what we hear in mainstream western media is overblown or inaccurate to manufacture consent for a conflict between us.

            The ruling class in all countries simply use the rest of us for their own gain.