Semantics. There are more guns in the US than people in the US. Guns are an oppressive force themselves in these extreme circumstances.
No different than having land mines all over at this point. People die needlessly due to proliferation thus creating an oppressive force without 2nd amendment gun nutters.
People aren’t claiming that they love guns, or gun violence. The point is that gun reform is dead for the foreseeable future. And since we are all forced to live in a society with gun proliferation, it makes sense that fascist shouldn’t be the only ones with guns.
Yeah, this is just learned helplessness wrapped up in a pretty bow.
What makes sense is dealing with the problem. We can’t regulate guns, but we can regulate bathrooms!?
Yeah, I am not buying it. Also, people are claiming they love guns and plenty love war as well. My daughter’s coworkers had a spirited conversation about how we should just rip off the bandaid and invade Canada and Mexico.
Clearly there is something wrong with our society and the proliferation of guns is just another symptom that needs to be managed as you would any disease.
Yeah, this is just learned helplessness wrapped up in a pretty bow.
Lol, arming yourself against fascist is totally learned helplessness…
I just think you are either delusional, in denial, or completely ignorant of the state of current affairs in the US, if you think we have any chance of gun reform with the current supreme court.
What makes sense is dealing with the problem. We can’t regulate guns, but we can regulate bathrooms!?
The people who want to protect fun laws currently hold the Senate, the House, and the Supreme Court which also have a very conservative interpretation of the constituonal amendment that protects firearms. They are also the same people who want to regulate bathrooms.
How do you suppose we enact firearms regulations?
Also, people are claiming they love guns and plenty love war as well. My daughter’s coworkers had a spirited conversation about how we should just rip off the bandaid and invade Canada and Mexico.
I was talking about the people in this current forum…
Clearly there is something wrong with our society and the proliferation of guns is just another symptom that needs to be managed as you would any disease.
Yeah… No shit. There are literallly fascist running the government.
I would love to live in a society where I don’t have to think about gun violence, that would be rad. It’s just clearly not the society we currently inhabit, and ignoring that fact does not make you any safer.
You might have the privilege of living in a more civil part of the country. I on the other hand am in an interracial marriage in the most violent and racist state in the union. So excuse me if I teach my friends and family how to defend themselves and build a mutual defence network among other minorities and the queer community.
Pretending you are not engaging in learned helpless is pretty silly as it is obvious you are. Clearly you don’t understand what is really going on, and that is okay. Fascism is not new, not even a little bit.
There are so many good solutions to our issues and the fact that you haven’t even spent time thinking about them is very telling. Instead you are a reactionary. Guns will never make our society safer, if they did we would be the safest society in the world already.
I have seen the damage gun culture does to the minority and queer community. The needless deaths and violence. Pushed by those who are mentally ill professing perverse defense fantasies created by the marketing department of gun manufacturers.
Just another fascist cog doing exactly what your are supposed to.
Pretending you are not engaging in learned helpless is pretty silly as it is obvious you are. Clearly you don’t understand what is really going on, and that is okay. Fascism is not new, not even a little bit.
And your answer to it is…?
There are so many good solutions to our issues and the fact that you haven’t even spent time thinking about them is very telling. Instead you are a reactionary.
Funny that you haven’t been able to offer a single solution? Or even propose how we achieve better gun laws with our current political make-up.
Guns will never make our society safer, if they did we would be the safest society in the world already.
I didn’t propose that it would. I am claiming that it can help protect small communities from the violence that is usually perpetrated by paramilitary groups to minorities in the advent of a fascist government.
I would suggest you read Setting Sight by Scott Crow. It goes through historical and contemporary essays written by successful mutual defense networks that survived fascist attacks.
have seen the damage gun culture does to the minority and queer community.
You have seen the culture of right winged extremist, not “gun culture” from left winged communities.
Pushed by those who are mentally ill professing perverse defense fantasies created by the marketing department of gun manufacturers.
Its hilarious that you can’t distinguish between right winged chud and people defending themselves against them.
Just another fascist cog doing exactly what your are supposed to.
Lol, yes the fascist famously want an armed population to suppress… You are a moron.
My answer is for you to recognize you are full of shit and come up with some real non-reactionary solutions.
You want me to provide you a unique solution to your situation. This is a stupid ask from someone who would just waste my time. Even if I did provide you several solutions you would shoot them all down because you are helpless.
You already have your stupid solution. Guns are going to solve your problems. Getting people killed is apparently a sick way for you to justify your inability to see beyond your own bloodlust.
Gun culture is gun culture. I have seen gay men afraid to leave their partner because they know they will shoot them. We hear everyday of the needless deaths because of gun proliferation in minority communities. Go do the bidding of gun manufacturers. Guns are not going to sell themselves.
Were are a fascist society because we are armed. You are fucking clueless to reality. Just another flavor of fascist pretending they are doing the right thing. Have fun with your defense fantasies and getting people you supposedly care about killed.
My answer is for you to recognize you are full of shit and come up with some real non-reactionary solutions.
Leftist defending themselves against fascist…clearly reactionary. Do you even know the definition of the words you are using? Was the Soviet revolution also reactionary in your book?
You want me to provide you a unique solution to your situation. This is a stupid ask from someone who would just waste my time. Even if I did provide you several solutions you would shoot them all down because you are helpless.
Lol, you could have just said no. I clearly asked what your solution is to enact gun control, you still haven’t answered despite claiming there are several easy ways to go about it.
You already have your stupid solution. Guns are going to solve your problems. Getting people killed is apparently a sick way for you to justify your inability to see beyond your own bloodlust
You do know theeaning of self defense, right?
Gun culture is gun culture. I have seen gay men afraid to leave their partner because they know they will shoot them.
By they, you mean right winged extremist… Or are you claiming armed leftist are hunting quuer people in the streets? It’s almost like there’s a clear distinction?
We hear everyday of the needless deaths because of gun proliferation in minority communities. Go do the bidding of gun manufacturers. Guns are not going to sell themselves.
Again, ignoring the point that we are already in that scenario and that is the reason why minority groups require protection. If I could magically disappear every private firearm in the country I would, but magic isn’t a solution.
Were are a fascist society because we are armed. You are fucking clueless to reality.
What are you talking about? You do know fascism has happened in countries where most people didn’t have access to firearms.
Just another flavor of fascist pretending they are doing the right thing. Have fun with your defense fantasies and getting people you supposedly care about killed.
Again… I don’t think you understand the definition of fascism?
Pretty sure you would have called the resistance fighters in france fascists.
You deny you are a reactionary now? This is so rich I don’t think I can take another bite.
I already explained I am not going to waste my time talking policy or ideas with a gun nutter. You clearly have done zero research and you have already given up anyways because you are a helpless loser so what is the fucking point.
Self defense is your talking point!? Yes people have the right to defend themselves but arming gays and minorities is not self defense. Have fun with your made-up militia
You clearly don’t know what fascism is. Your definition is fascist=bad. That is about your speed.
Semantics. There are more guns in the US than people in the US. Guns are an oppressive force themselves in these extreme circumstances.
No different than having land mines all over at this point. People die needlessly due to proliferation thus creating an oppressive force without 2nd amendment gun nutters.
People aren’t claiming that they love guns, or gun violence. The point is that gun reform is dead for the foreseeable future. And since we are all forced to live in a society with gun proliferation, it makes sense that fascist shouldn’t be the only ones with guns.
Yeah, this is just learned helplessness wrapped up in a pretty bow.
What makes sense is dealing with the problem. We can’t regulate guns, but we can regulate bathrooms!?
Yeah, I am not buying it. Also, people are claiming they love guns and plenty love war as well. My daughter’s coworkers had a spirited conversation about how we should just rip off the bandaid and invade Canada and Mexico.
Clearly there is something wrong with our society and the proliferation of guns is just another symptom that needs to be managed as you would any disease.
Lol, arming yourself against fascist is totally learned helplessness…
I just think you are either delusional, in denial, or completely ignorant of the state of current affairs in the US, if you think we have any chance of gun reform with the current supreme court.
The people who want to protect fun laws currently hold the Senate, the House, and the Supreme Court which also have a very conservative interpretation of the constituonal amendment that protects firearms. They are also the same people who want to regulate bathrooms.
How do you suppose we enact firearms regulations?
I was talking about the people in this current forum…
Yeah… No shit. There are literallly fascist running the government.
I would love to live in a society where I don’t have to think about gun violence, that would be rad. It’s just clearly not the society we currently inhabit, and ignoring that fact does not make you any safer.
You might have the privilege of living in a more civil part of the country. I on the other hand am in an interracial marriage in the most violent and racist state in the union. So excuse me if I teach my friends and family how to defend themselves and build a mutual defence network among other minorities and the queer community.
Pretending you are not engaging in learned helpless is pretty silly as it is obvious you are. Clearly you don’t understand what is really going on, and that is okay. Fascism is not new, not even a little bit.
There are so many good solutions to our issues and the fact that you haven’t even spent time thinking about them is very telling. Instead you are a reactionary. Guns will never make our society safer, if they did we would be the safest society in the world already.
I have seen the damage gun culture does to the minority and queer community. The needless deaths and violence. Pushed by those who are mentally ill professing perverse defense fantasies created by the marketing department of gun manufacturers.
Just another fascist cog doing exactly what your are supposed to.
And your answer to it is…?
Funny that you haven’t been able to offer a single solution? Or even propose how we achieve better gun laws with our current political make-up.
I didn’t propose that it would. I am claiming that it can help protect small communities from the violence that is usually perpetrated by paramilitary groups to minorities in the advent of a fascist government.
I would suggest you read Setting Sight by Scott Crow. It goes through historical and contemporary essays written by successful mutual defense networks that survived fascist attacks.
You have seen the culture of right winged extremist, not “gun culture” from left winged communities.
Its hilarious that you can’t distinguish between right winged chud and people defending themselves against them.
Lol, yes the fascist famously want an armed population to suppress… You are a moron.
My answer is for you to recognize you are full of shit and come up with some real non-reactionary solutions.
You want me to provide you a unique solution to your situation. This is a stupid ask from someone who would just waste my time. Even if I did provide you several solutions you would shoot them all down because you are helpless.
You already have your stupid solution. Guns are going to solve your problems. Getting people killed is apparently a sick way for you to justify your inability to see beyond your own bloodlust.
Gun culture is gun culture. I have seen gay men afraid to leave their partner because they know they will shoot them. We hear everyday of the needless deaths because of gun proliferation in minority communities. Go do the bidding of gun manufacturers. Guns are not going to sell themselves.
Were are a fascist society because we are armed. You are fucking clueless to reality. Just another flavor of fascist pretending they are doing the right thing. Have fun with your defense fantasies and getting people you supposedly care about killed.
Leftist defending themselves against fascist…clearly reactionary. Do you even know the definition of the words you are using? Was the Soviet revolution also reactionary in your book?
Lol, you could have just said no. I clearly asked what your solution is to enact gun control, you still haven’t answered despite claiming there are several easy ways to go about it.
You do know theeaning of self defense, right?
By they, you mean right winged extremist… Or are you claiming armed leftist are hunting quuer people in the streets? It’s almost like there’s a clear distinction?
Again, ignoring the point that we are already in that scenario and that is the reason why minority groups require protection. If I could magically disappear every private firearm in the country I would, but magic isn’t a solution.
What are you talking about? You do know fascism has happened in countries where most people didn’t have access to firearms.
Again… I don’t think you understand the definition of fascism?
Pretty sure you would have called the resistance fighters in france fascists.
You deny you are a reactionary now? This is so rich I don’t think I can take another bite.
I already explained I am not going to waste my time talking policy or ideas with a gun nutter. You clearly have done zero research and you have already given up anyways because you are a helpless loser so what is the fucking point.
Self defense is your talking point!? Yes people have the right to defend themselves but arming gays and minorities is not self defense. Have fun with your made-up militia
You clearly don’t know what fascism is. Your definition is fascist=bad. That is about your speed.