• almost_genocide@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    A vote for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries wasn’t a vote against Trump it was a vote against leftists and a dice roll against Trump.

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      2 months ago

      Yeah it was totally that and not because Biden, as former VP for a popular President, got credibility across the political spectrum as a safe choice after four years of President TMZ and All Those Rapes.

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          2 months ago

          What’s crazy is you think this makes you clever.

          It doesn’t. It just shows you’re unreasonable and incapable of understanding context or nuance. In other words, you’re either literally 15 or you’re mentally 15.

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            2 months ago

            Give me a break. You know exactly where I’m going with this and so you cut it off and call me a teenager? Have a bit of self respect and admit I’m about to prove my point.

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          2 months ago

          centrists get stuff done, right? Like that genocide they funded under Bidens term. Be proud!

          They also did a bang up job holding trump accountable for his insurrection and destroying republicans with the Epsten files. Remember that? so much winning. So much gotten done.

          And then you go claim leftists get nothing done. What a frickin joke.

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              FDR. Who also happens to be among the last decent presidents of either party. You centrist DNC pond scum sellouts are still pretending you inherited his legacy, when you really inherited Ronald Reagans. And you cant win elections even running against a criminal clown like trump that anyone even halfway decent should be able to beat without trying. As long as those AIPAC paychecks keep showing though, thats what really matters, right?

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                  When was the last time our Democratic party centrist leaders sold us out or did something against the interest of the voters? A day or so.

                  Betrayal is even worse than getting no laws past.

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          Oh ho! Now you’ve done it! They’re totally double extra not gonna vote for your candidate now!

          They weren’t anyway but now . . . You just pissed off the least powerful non-voters in the electorate! Liberal!

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            2 months ago

            The last time we had a legitimate primary was six years ago because liberals let Biden campaign long enough to prevent a legitimate primary in 2024. Because liberals prefer MAGA over leftists.

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                He is partially incorrect in his claim about the 2024 primary. We had a primary in 2024 (not a legitimate one IMHO) but the 2024 primary does demonstrate liberals preferring MAGA over leftists.

                The uncommitted movement had ~25 percent of the vote in Michigan which was a swing state the Dems couldn’t beat Trump without. The Dems chose to ignore this warning and continue funding the genocide.

                The liberals screaming at leftist over the last 18 months stems from leftists having solidarity with the Muslim community in Michigan when the Democratic party abandoned them for their Isreal donors.

                Also even if every third party vote had gone to Kamala in every swing state she still would have lost to Trump.

                The contension stems partly from liberals unwillingness to think critically about the failures of the democratic party. Preferring party loyalty and rejecting the wishes of the voters over accepting any constructive criticism from the left.

                You want to respond by defending the democrats. Perhaps saying people who voted third-party actually support Trump. Any excuse you make for the democrats loss proves the exact point I’m making.

                You’ll attack the left even when they’re offering constructive feedback and even when not listening to your left flank means MAGA winning. In other words, you would rather MAGA win than the left.

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                  2 months ago

                  Third party has never changed a modern election it’s the people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a black woman that swung things.

                  Biden still could have comfortably won over Trump again.

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                    2 months ago

                    Judging by the fact they they hid the autopsy for years, it was because of the genocide and milquetoast neoliberal policies that she lost, not what’s between her legs.

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                Okay, will someone who disagrees with me explain to this guy how primaries work an incumbent is running? He’s not going to believe anything I say.