Please tell me i’m not the only one who still finds this ridiculous and believes that only a court of law can determine guilt?

    • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zipOP
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      22 days ago

      Who cares who supported who. My point is that people are innocent until proven guilty and that the facts don’t show without a shadow of a doubt that he’s guilty. And even when it does point to guilt our country never treats everyone the same and even ignores the lack of attributed justice.

      • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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        22 days ago

        I think I don’t understand the meme then? I think it’s saying the Democrats were harsher on him than the others, despite him not being convinced? But how?

        • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zipOP
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          22 days ago

          They’re asking him to stand down without an actual court proceeding and weak facts.

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            22 days ago

            So wait you are comparing asking someone to step down until this can be sorted out or because there is concern it will hurt the party is equivalent to being arrested and imprisoned?

            Or at least that it requires the same level of evidence?

            • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zipOP
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              22 days ago

              I think the ideal situation is that he agrees to go to court and stands firm in his innocence if he is innocent. Get elected anyway. If he’s guilty in a court of law THEN he should step down.

              But i’m not FOR Americans and their culture of becoming vultures against someone due to weak evidence because the Media or political figures tell them so. So yes, I am someone who supports evidence and a jury to determine guilt in a court of law.

              • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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                22 days ago

                I don’t understand this logic unless being a senator brings significant personal benefit instead of being a service in which case, that explains a lot about how people behave

                And further if it considered good leadership to put your personal benefit above the good of your movement

                • toomanypancakes@crazypeople.online
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                  22 days ago

                  Most senators do make quite a lot of money during their careers.

                  Edit: hopefully the picture works better. But yeah, it’s pretty bad. Too many selfish people in charge.

                  • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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                    22 days ago

                    Thank you! I did know it was a paid position, I was hoping it would point out how absurd it is to tie someones financial future to their ability to win elections. Why would they do anything but ensure they stay in office?

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                    22 days ago

                    All the more motivation for Platner to deny there were any more potential scandals even while he knew that this woman believed he raped her. She texted him that he had sex with her without her consent. And he flatly denied that there were any more skeletons in his closet.

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              22 days ago

              When you’re talking about overriding the will of the voters, yes, a similar burdain of proof should exist as imprisoning someone.

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                22 days ago

                Not really.

                First off they are asking him to step down, which he should have done ages ago. For oh-so-many reasons.

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                  22 days ago

                  Platner received more primary votes than any Senate candidate in Maine history. You’re damn right forcing him to step down is overriding the will of the voters.

                  I support doing that if he’s proven to be a rapist, but that is not the kind of thing you do lightly. It’s at least as serious as say, giving someone jail sentence for a few years.

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                    22 days ago

                    So.

                    Hypothetically.

                    If someone were to be unwilling to be a canidate, but the primary voters voted for them anyways… are they obligated to run? or maybe do they get to decide that?

                    The choice to run or not run is still Platner’s, not the voters.

                    Also hypothetically. What if he doesn’t step down and he is proven to be a rapist. would you be willing to override the will of the people and throw him in jail? or are you just going to admit you’re part of the problem?

                    Platner is the idiot who had these skeletons in his closet and thought they wouldn’t get dragged out. that alone should be disqualifying, nevermind the fact that there is good evidence (which you don’t like so wahhahaha crybaby cry!)

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            Yeah, because they don’t want a candidate with credible rape accusations. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

            The outlet reported it reviewed text messages and interviewed people whom Racicot had previously told about the incident, including her therapist and an ex-boyfriend. The Hill

            Rep. Ro Khanna rescinded his endorsement of Graham Platner and called the allegations “serious and credible”.

            • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zipOP
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              22 days ago

              Politico was the outlet. Text Messages screenshots can be fabricated. All the communication outside of those screenshots conveniently left out. And all other witnesses conveniently wanting to be remaining anonymous.

              I don’t care if Bernie Sanders asked him to step down. They aren’t a jury or a judge.

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                22 days ago

                Oh, you’re confused. This is a political process, not a judicial one. There’s no “beyond a reasonable doubt” here, and this isn’t the first issue with Platner.

                • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zipOP
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                  22 days ago

                  No im not confused. And i dont care about the previous allegation or this one until its presented before a judge and not the court of dumbass American media consumers.

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                    21 days ago

                    Seems reasonable to me. Especially with all the corporate capture of our media and how the DNC gets to have just enough time to pick a candidate if he drops right now.

          • vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            22 days ago

            The bar you used to have for elected office was quite a bit higher than “technically not yet convicted of actual rape”.

            But hey, you do you. All sorts of criminals walking around in Washington these days.

            • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zipOP
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              22 days ago

              He’s doing a lot more good for Americans on his platform and I think the elites are afraid of the rising amount of socialists running and winning. They’ll do anything to find a hit piece. But this hit piece is weak AF.

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        22 days ago

        Platner has said himself that he has committed multiple war crimes. This includes firing mortars at crowds of random Afghans, getting caught, having the the firing platforms taken away, then modifying other rocket firing systems to continue firing mortars onto crowds of people. This is just one of the horrific things he himself has said he has done. He never deserved to be a candidate.