Please tell me i’m not the only one who still finds this ridiculous and believes that only a court of law can determine guilt?
Please tell me i’m not the only one who still finds this ridiculous and believes that only a court of law can determine guilt?
The women he’s dated have spoken on his character, it was pretty bad.
I dunno, this feels like how Republicans defend their own regardless of what comes out. I get you can like a guy’s stances but at some point, if we want to be the party of good, we have to act like it.
Nah Republicans are a different breed because they’ll keep supporting even after the court of law has been applied to establish guilt. I’m asking for people to at least let him get to court. Also what sources do you have to show people speaking on his character?
Oh you have no idea about Platner’s history at all but you’re going this hard against his victim?
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/us/politics/platner-maine-senate-girlfriends-relationships.html
There are people seriously pushing here that because this woman is conservative she must be lying.
I believe her.
That’s such a weird line, like she planned this out a decade before Platner got into politics?
It’s just so depressing. I get that folks can love his positions but goddamn, I also thought we had standards.
There’s some real conspiracy theory shit brewing here. Talk about the text messages being made up by Israel and whatnot. It’s a little much considering the most believable part of this story is that a man got drunk and forced himself on the woman he was seeing at the time.
Ugh.
I guess, glass half full, it’s nice to see the Right doesn’t have a monopoly on “well, he’s our guy so everything else is a rigged conspiracy.”
Depressing AF.
When the leftists are yelling about how both sides are the same, they really aren’t that far off. They just don’t realize fellow progressives are included.
Why is it crazy?
Israel carried out an elaborately planned attack involving thousands of booby-trapped pagers that required setting up an entire secret production and logistic chain. Israel spycraft is so good that they literally stole the uranium they used to build their first nukes right out of US labs. They. Stole. Uranium. Weapons grade.
You’re talking about a country with the best spies on the planet, and one that openly spends millions of dollars influencing US elections.
You’re also talking about a country willing to accept massive collateral damage if it advances their interests. Those pagers for instance? They were smuggled in over years. Many ended up in pawn shops and later bought by random innocent people. Many innocent bystanders were harmed when Hezbollah members were blown up. You can’t set off thousands of explosions in a country at random locations without hurting a lot of innocent people.
My point is that Israel has the means, motive, and opportunity to do this. Framing an innocent man for rape is not even on their radar in terms of acceptable levels of collateral damage.
Do I actually think it’s an Israel conspiracy? I have no real evidence of that. But I also think it’s ridiculous to just dismiss the idea out of hand. You can find numerous incidents of blackmail committed by Israel against American victims.
Fine. Indict him for rape. Senators are not exempt from felony prosecution.
Sure, that’s up to the victim etc.
And as far as I’m aware, being a felon doesn’t make someone ineligible for running for Senate.
If he was convicted, and he didn’t have the honor to step down, the Senate would vote to kick him out at that point. The Senate has routinely voted to kick people out convicted of serious felonies. And he would be replaced with another Democrat anyway. Plus the establishment dems would be happy to see him go.
If he’s convicted, and if he doesn’t step down, he would be kicked out of the Senate by a vote of 99-1.
So, if his victim doesn’t feel comfortable undergoing the emotional toil of a legal battle about rape, that means he’s good people?
Have you also lobbied and argued for folks who stepped down etc after the Epstein files as almost none of that has gone to court yet?
If you really internalize the foundational values of our democracy, yes. You do understand that we’re not supposed to punish people without trial, right? If a victim doesn’t want to come forward, I can understand why. But protecting victims is no excuse to dismantle the very foundations of justice.
To my knowledge, none of those accusations were made in an extremely opportune manner that demanded action be immediately taken without proper time to investigate them. And the people who were asked to step down are those who we have clear evidence of making damning emails with Epstein. That’s the key thing - we have the actual damning emails. We have very little contemporary evidence here.
There’s a different between legal punishment and consequences. Typically on the Left, we have this fight with the Right about free speech; yes, the government won’t stop you from saying horrific things but those horrific statements still have consequences. Kanye for example, has committed (as far as I know) no crimes but I would be similarly uncomfortable were he running for Senate.
(I also think it’s pretty funny that in the next paragraph, you’re totally fine with people stepping down without a trial, even though you also claim that punishing people without a trial is a foundational value of American democracy.)
I think at the end of the day, it comes down to what you’re willing to tolerate. Personally, I have many women and girls in my life whom I love and value so, I don’t feel at all comfortable with an accused rapist running for Senate. I’ve known enough victims to have some sense of how horrific those situations are, why not everyone feels comfortable going to trial and why predators should be avoided. I didn’t feel good about Platner after the piece came out a month ago detailing a bunch of disturbing behavior to women but hey, everyone has different values.
To each their own.