No region of the world can receive millions of people without disruptions. Some thousands and you have a housing crisis already, shitty apartments in Lisbon are more expensive than good ones in Brussels. And the total of the population barely changed…
Also, migration without controls is a neoliberal agenda, not a left one. Controlled economy doesn’t work with uncontrolled migration. It’s weird to me that it’s always the left carrying the defense of migration when it’s something of a free market ideology. Socialist countries are always extremely controlling of their borders.
You’re the one advocating for cheap labour without restrictions, how am I the one carrying the flame for the rich? The rich love cheap labour! But yeah, with that dominant ideology among left parties, no wonder the popular classes vote far-right…
I just gave you the example of house prices in Lisbon, and those are not being pulled up by cheap labour, but uncontrolled migration also means cheap labor.
And no, a EU citizen in another EU country is not an immigrant. But an American digital nomad in Lisbon yes, is indeed an immigrant.
Also, advocating for limits and policies that regulate migration doesn’t mean being against it all together. It’s not a yes or no question, precisely what I’ve been trying to say since the first comment.
No region of the world can receive millions of people without disruptions. Some thousands and you have a housing crisis already, shitty apartments in Lisbon are more expensive than good ones in Brussels. And the total of the population barely changed…
Also, migration without controls is a neoliberal agenda, not a left one. Controlled economy doesn’t work with uncontrolled migration. It’s weird to me that it’s always the left carrying the defense of migration when it’s something of a free market ideology. Socialist countries are always extremely controlling of their borders.
I think you both make good points.
Immigration can only work with integration, and there are limits beyond which things just… break.
And ideally, people shouldn’t have to upend their lives and move to entire different continents for a chance of a decent living.
I see carrying the torch for the rich is your past time. Keep it up.
You’re the one advocating for cheap labour without restrictions, how am I the one carrying the flame for the rich? The rich love cheap labour! But yeah, with that dominant ideology among left parties, no wonder the popular classes vote far-right…
You’re assuming all immigrants are cheap labor. I know which political ideology you lean towards.
Hint: Expats are immigrants and so are foreign nationals from the US, Italy or Australia in any European country that isn’t Italy.
I just gave you the example of house prices in Lisbon, and those are not being pulled up by cheap labour, but uncontrolled migration also means cheap labor.
And no, a EU citizen in another EU country is not an immigrant. But an American digital nomad in Lisbon yes, is indeed an immigrant.
Also, advocating for limits and policies that regulate migration doesn’t mean being against it all together. It’s not a yes or no question, precisely what I’ve been trying to say since the first comment.
I don’t think they’re “carrying the torch for the rich” - at least not intentionally.