• PugJesus@piefed.socialOP
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    1876: “No support to any religion and no clergy in government”

    1894: “PRAISE JEEEEEEEZUS”

    There are two Americans inside of us

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      The jesus amendment has been proposed over and over, with similar ones dropped in 1864, 1874, 1896, 1910 and 1954.

      They do not give up.

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        Well they basically got it, even if it’s not written down. The current administration is doing its damnedest to fulfill the requirements outlined for the apocalypse.

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      No person ought, or of right can be compelled, to attend any religious worship, or erect, or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of his conscience.

      –Vermont Constitution, Article 3

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    The one after it doesn’t seem awful, either. May need some automatic inflation adjustments, though.

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      At this point, I’d be fine with any number between $10M and $1B today, and then like you said lock it to inflation. And tax all annual income above some set amount at 100%. Don’t like it? Reinvest more money into your company, pay your employees more, or donate more instead of taking such a ludicrous salary. Abolish yachts.

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        What actually happens is the rich move to Dubai or similar. We tried a wealth tax in Norway and all the useless real estate “entrepreneurs” moved to Switzerland. To be fair I haven’t really heard of anyone who’s actually not easily replaceable moving, but this limit is way more radical than a wealth tax.

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          Tax them abroad then. Don’t the USA for example require Americans to tax their income even if they live and work abroad?

          They could then still live in a place where you can’t enforce it, like Dubai. But that effectively results in blocking them from entering your country - and any country you have an extradition treaty with. Because you have an outstanding arrest warrant against them at some point. Plus you can confiscate any assets left behind like companies or real estate.

          So at the end of the day, they’ll have to decide between a financial cap of (for example) 1 billion or being very limited in traveling. I know what I’d choose.
          Surely some will still go for the ‘limited travel’ option an avoid taxation, but I suppose most rich people don’t want to be locked in a country like UAE without any actual benefit (you don’t really notice the difference between having 1 billion and 30 billion I suppose, you basically have unlimited money either way).

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            What’s more, the Dubai government might get some interesting ideas about their billionaires once they know they’re not able to leave.

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    ‘A nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its laws made by cowards and its wars fought by fools.’ - Thucydides circa a while a go.

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    Executive counsel of 3 to replace the president.
    Yes

    One person should not be in charge.

    I don’t think that’s ever worked out for humanity.

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      The Executive isn’t supposed to have as much power as it currently is using. The other branches that have the power to stop it don’t care though. Haven’t for years really.

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        In part that power grab is a product of single power hungry people changing laws and pushing for that increase in power. It’s possible a group of 3 might do the same. But it’s maybe not.

        If we had a 3 party system and made it so someone from each party was elected that would force more cooperation.

        Or… Could also breakdown differences between parties over time. To where ultimately one party controls the other two.

        Kinda of like how the democratic party in the U.S is basically Republican now with a handful of exceptions.

        I’ve not studied political history so I’m just guessing on how things could play out.

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      It’s possible a law like that could have slowed down feminism and the right for women to vote by quite a number of years …decades even. Maybe forever.

      Because women moved into the work places due to men going to war. And in many ways feminism has its roots in those eras.

      Not excusing war. I’m considering alternative effects. Case in point. Women didn’t get the right to vote in Switzerland until 1979.

      Yeah, that right. 1979!

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      War efforts require all sorts of work. Not just combat. Maybe the 90yr old can do dishes or patch uniforms.

      Regardless, it would be better than the rich sending the young to die.

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    “Oh, but this isn’t an act of war. It’s an excursion. You know? All of our military boys booked a cruise ship vacation to the Middle East, and one of the excursions listed in the pamphlet was, ‘Murder children and elderly Ayatollahs in Iran to distract the American public from the Trump-Epstein files.’”

    Unfunny jokes aside, there are many amendments I would like to pass before that. And I’m an older man anyways, so I probably wouldn’t be seeing any danger if I voted for a war.

    I’d pass an Amendment that guarantees citizens right to receive the best attempt at truthful statements from the government and political candidates, where immediate dismissal is the minimum consequence for any intentional lie in a public statement from a government worker, and for any other workers who conspired to lie to the public.

    I think that Americans cannot be expected to vote correctly if they are lied to by their government.

    I’d pass an Amendment that standardizes how voting districts are drawn, and requires them to be drawn for the most fair representation among known voting blocks.

    I’d pass an Amendment that requires the voting method used to try to maximize certain aspects like Condorcet voting, such as ability to recount, removing spoiler candidates, and minimizing voter dissatisfaction.

    I’d pass an Amendment that says campaigns cannot be funded by private donations, including volunteering time. Campaigns are either run on a flat fee, or they can incorporate things like vouchers that are provided to registered voters.

    We still haven’t passed that equality Amendment for women’s rights.

    For less fleshed out ones, I’d love amendments that guarantee nutrition and education for children, and clean water and free medical care for every American.

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    1893: the US air force guess back in time to pull the ultimate prank on it’s older siblings

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      Ikr, i looked what’s inside the red box, looked at the first two and almost came to a conclusion about the whole text until my eyes went to the ones above the red box, yikes

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    @PugJesus

    Robert Heinlein used this idea in one of his books, “For Us The Living…” which was the first book he wrote, but not published until after his death.

    He wrote it well after 1916, so he’d probably got the idea from the proposed amendment.

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    I would like one.

    No person or orginization is above the law.

    Any person can be charged with a crime ( felony and/or misdemeanor) equal to or greater court to witch office or position they hold. If charged in a lower Court, it must be shown that 2/3 of the jurisdiction the person whom is charged represents contains a similar law.

    Those currently in office found guilty of crime/s by a jury trial and sentenced to incarnation shall immediately be removed from office or position and can not serve in office or position of public service again.

    If in good faith a private individual or organization may bring criminal charges against a individual in office or position. Acting a prosecutor in situation when the state/government/or person refuses to charge individuals in criminal acts.

    Not applicable to international law unless applicable by signed treaty or passed/ratified law.

    INAL and this could probably be written by one better but think something blike this would be fair and stop those in power from doing dumb shit.

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      There’s an idea for a story I have, where a nation holds sacred the act of bringing an argument to court, and while it sets standards for how court proceedings play out, it is NOT always necessarily applied by the government in an approved “court house”. The people are all taught the core principles of a trial, of allowing both sides their arguments, of having a neutral judge, etc.

      The story would then lead to cases where, for instance, a neighborhood watch has captured a killer, but doesn’t trust the local police to arrest him, worrying they may be in league; so they conduct a trial themselves.

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        I keep toying with the idea of writing. I have always been bad or English written or spoken. Maybe someday I’ll write something even if nothing comes of it.