so why do you keep acting like I don’t then? You aren’t even internally consistent in that post, you say that it’s great that I vote, but then act like I don’t again in the second paragraph
I clearly say that its good that you voted. I also say that your disdain for participation is harmful and that it would be helpful if you talk to our other fellow lefties about doing so. At least to spoil their ballots. Like you said early on it is the minimum civil engagement.
I also pointed out that your attitude about voting sets a discouraging message to those around you. It fosters apathy and dis-unity among our fellow lefties.
just to be clear, your problem really is about my attitude towards democrats
Thank you for that Ms. Strawman. I don’t think mls would show up to vote if we did have a group up left leaning party.
I will point that early on I did say it would be ideal to have our own party. Voting dem is more about a necessity since we as a group have neglected to form one (in part thanks to the prevailing attitude similar to yours that the elections don’t matter).
I also never said that its the only form of organization we should do. Just that it is foolish of us to ignore it. Which is why I am also reaching out to you to please encourage fellow lefties to vote as left as possible.
I also never said that anarchism was a bad thing or undesirable. I did ask you for help in short term harm reduction. It seems to me that your lack of urgency is due to privilege.
Just look at how much effort I have to go to ask a lefty, you, to encourage others to form a party and at least vote as left as possible. It is toxic behavior on your part to push back on what you broadly agree with and tear down the coalitions we have. J Edgar Hoover couldn’t have done better if he trained agentes himself.
I don’t think mls would show up to vote if we did have a group up left leaning party.
I knew plenty of MLs who did vote for PSL in the last few elections, just feels like you’re dealing in caricatures.
It seems to me that your lack of urgency is due to privilege.
What lack of urgency and privilege? I’ve been plenty impacted by this government, I even had a person I knew through housing organizing get taken by ICE last year. I don’t see the democrats as credible ‘harm reduction’. they are useless at best, co-conspirators at worst.
Just look at how much effort I have to go to ask a lefty, you, to encourage others to form a party and at least vote as left as possible.
I already said it’s minimum civic engagement, I even vote in municipal elections and try to get comrades to at least vote in those because they’re decided by like a hundred people. Whatever you’re arguing against, it’s not my position.
J Edgar Hoover couldn’t have done better if he trained agentes himself
if you’re going to accuse me of that, my observation is that the only one doing freelance fed work in this conversation is you
are you incapable of registering that I do vote? How do you keep failing to read that across at this point a half dozen posts.
You are not actually engaging with anything I’m saying and just rattling off bullshit. pretty normal behavior from you lot, sadly.
so why do you keep acting like I don’t then? You aren’t even internally consistent in that post, you say that it’s great that I vote, but then act like I don’t again in the second paragraph
You are going to have to clarify. I feel I have made my point.
you didn’t make any points, you just keep circling and accusing me of not voting lmao
I clearly say that its good that you voted. I also say that your disdain for participation is harmful and that it would be helpful if you talk to our other fellow lefties about doing so. At least to spoil their ballots. Like you said early on it is the minimum civil engagement.
I also pointed out that your attitude about voting sets a discouraging message to those around you. It fosters apathy and dis-unity among our fellow lefties.
Is that more clear?
wow it’s almost like that’s been my position all along, and it’s not mutually exclusive with thinking that democrats are genocidal warmongers.
just to be clear, your problem really is about my attitude towards democrats
Thank you for that Ms. Strawman. I don’t think mls would show up to vote if we did have a group up left leaning party.
I will point that early on I did say it would be ideal to have our own party. Voting dem is more about a necessity since we as a group have neglected to form one (in part thanks to the prevailing attitude similar to yours that the elections don’t matter).
I also never said that its the only form of organization we should do. Just that it is foolish of us to ignore it. Which is why I am also reaching out to you to please encourage fellow lefties to vote as left as possible.
I also never said that anarchism was a bad thing or undesirable. I did ask you for help in short term harm reduction. It seems to me that your lack of urgency is due to privilege.
Just look at how much effort I have to go to ask a lefty, you, to encourage others to form a party and at least vote as left as possible. It is toxic behavior on your part to push back on what you broadly agree with and tear down the coalitions we have. J Edgar Hoover couldn’t have done better if he trained agentes himself.
I knew plenty of MLs who did vote for PSL in the last few elections, just feels like you’re dealing in caricatures.
What lack of urgency and privilege? I’ve been plenty impacted by this government, I even had a person I knew through housing organizing get taken by ICE last year. I don’t see the democrats as credible ‘harm reduction’. they are useless at best, co-conspirators at worst.
I already said it’s minimum civic engagement, I even vote in municipal elections and try to get comrades to at least vote in those because they’re decided by like a hundred people. Whatever you’re arguing against, it’s not my position.
if you’re going to accuse me of that, my observation is that the only one doing freelance fed work in this conversation is you