They do, don’t they? People would complain about certain things of Windows or MacOS not working. And if it fits the situation, recommendation might me voiced.
I highly recommend that you recommend some recommended operating systems.
Ever since switching I’ve needed to hold myself back from mentioning it in every conversation. I thought it was a meme, but it’s real!
Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?
Richard Stallman*
The meme said Linux users, not GNU/Linux.
It also said operating systems, not kernels.
As a Linux n00b, now I need to know which is the kernel and which is the OS.
The long and short of it is this:
- Linux is the kernal, the bit of the OS responsible for interacting with hardware and organising processes that run
- GNU packages are a collection of small software programs that are present in virtually every Linux distro (things like bash, grep, and libc) that are needed to make the OS do useful things.
- together they make up “GNU/Linux”, which is often shortened to simply Linux. Which is fine, people will understand what you’re talking about from context, and only pedantic asshats will correct you in general conversation. This is the internet though and you’re bound to run into a pedantic asshat from time to time.
Thanks for this explanation. This was my understanding as well, except for the GNU part.
I asked because the parent commenter directly above my first comment made the distinction between the operating system and the kernel. I wasn’t actually sure what the overall umbrella “OS” was for Linux, since as you say the kernel is Linux while there are GNU packages. I can’t really recall someone on Lemmy saying what exactly the operating system is for any given computer that happens to run Linux as the kernel.
I guess this scratches at what the definition of an operating system is: Windows, macOS, or GNU/Linux. In reality, doesn’t Windows run on the Unix kernel? Why don’t we call it Windows/Unix then? Is Unix used with other “operating systems” that layer on top of the Unix kernel itself?
I went to school for electrical engineering btw and had to take many classes about digital logic and all of the entry level stuff about PCs at a hardware level. Didn’t really get taught much about what goes on top of the hardware aside from maybe microcontrollers with Assembly and C.
Thanks anyways!
For most users, kernel js kinda invisible. Whatever program you run interacts with the system via the kernel. Kernel manages hardware and links software with hardware.
And all the other programs you can launch, built around the kernel which together make it functional is the rest of the OS.
✨ Linchard Starvalds ✨
Bold move to combine their names and then give it those damn “we’ve forced AI into this” sparkles, lol.
The linux kernel was invented by Linus Nostallman.
The pedo apologist?
ex-
Ex-pedo? I’d half believe it.
ex-apologist. he’s gone on record saying that his statements were based on ignorance and that he had talked to a child psychologist to learn more.
What kind of statements were his?
That if someone freely gives consent but is underage, it’s not immoral.
The Father -> Richard Stallman
The Son -> Linus Torvalds
The Holy Ghost -> GNU+Linux
The Holy Temple -> Arch Linux
Holy Temple is of course Temple OS.
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Filthy heretic!
Linux people are polite enough to not react when I tell them I use Ubuntu.
Windows people think I am a geeky nerd that knows how to code when I tell them I use Ubuntu.
If you’ve been enjoying Ubuntu so far I randomly want to recommend Debian to you. ☺️
I’m here to start a flame war and say Debian is old and gross and Fedora is clearly the way forward. And fuck it while were here, dont use the regular Fedora workstation, use the KDE spin, GNOME bad!
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I want to downvote and upvote you at the same time.
I had a very niche problem on Fedora once that I was personally unable to solve, therefore the entire project is trash and everyone should use CachyOS which I haven’t managed to break yet!
And even though I see you clearly trolling I am here to still try to convince you why Debian objectively clearly has the superior package management 😁.
I didn’t realize spoiler links were possible and took the bait 🫠
That is okay you are forgiven 🤣
Debian is a fine choice.
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The only people that I know that use Debian are over 50 years old
Well, now you don’t.
Moving to Debian from Ubuntu was like moving from Windows to Linux again for me. It basically removes all the bloat and adware and just left the things I actually like, which I assume Ubuntu inherited from Debian anyway.
But to be fair I just use my Debian machine for writing projects, research, and flash cards.
I recently had a similar experience. I used Linux Mint for the longest time, which is ubuntu based. And I tried LMDE for a little bit recently.
But then I decided to try straight Debian 13 w/ KDE Plasma. I absolutely love it, and I’m old enough that seeing
starting Debian GNU/Linuxjust feels cozy and correct. Plus like you said the speed and stability are somehow even better, but that I had issues before.
Im comfortable with Ubuntu, and have no curiosity to try another distro. But if I ever have the inclination to try something else, I know Lemmy will have kind people to guide me.
Can’t argue with that, glad you’re enjoying it 👍
Not even dirty 30 yet baybee!
Hey! I’m not 50 yet!
Though not far off TBF.
Monkeys, together strong
Most if not all linux users i know irl use ubuntu and dont know much of other distros.
I’m persuading some of turning to the right side of history and join Debian
The real red pill is that distros are only different people in two aspects: convenience and degree of control. Only thing that matters is we’re on the side of freedom
Just glad you’re on our side mate.
This is one of the typical reactions when people hear about Ubuntu
Never before have I been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with.
Okay people: Win 10 is infinitely better than Win 11, so like if you’re one of the few eccentric people that for some reason is required to use Win🅱️ows
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Okay so previously I tried PopOS and it kinda works but when I tried playing games (tetr.io to be exact) my framerate is half of my monitor’s refresh rate and I had no idea how to fix it and at the time I’m using absolutely proprietary software required for my university and dual booting is a nightmare to deal with for some reason with Windows; and then at one point I also tried Bazzite, and no matter what I did, tetr.io would always operate on my iGPU and not on my discrete GPU (thanks NoVIDIA!!1!), so after that I dunno I’ll just probably stick to Win 10 until I got a proper PC, and that’s a whole story to have and I don’t want another yapping session about that
then… there you go.
For the problems you encountered: the refresh rate can be set in the monitor settings. If you can’t go any higher, then there might be a problem with your graphics drivers. It is also important to add that Pop!OS is based on Ubuntu, which can take ages to implement modern changes. For Gaming I would generally recommend a rolling release distro, maybe it be OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, Fedora, etc… Otherwise you might not get the cutting edge tech that you need.
As for Tetr.io: it seems to be a problem with Vulcan, namely that improperly configured drivers will use the iGPU by default. How do you install/run that game?
A friend of mine had a party at her place on the most recent new years eve, there were several people who I hadn’t met before there and we quickly realised we were all Linux users and, of course, absolute fucking nerds (I mean that with pride and appreciation).
She is very much not a nerd in that way and most others there weren’t too. It took about 15 minutes before she threw her hands up in the air and said “guys, this isn’t fun for anyone else, if you really need to only talk about operating systems and shit like that you’ll have to leave. Everyone else wants to hang with you guys too but no one can if you keep this in-group thing going.”
And, yeah, we all understood her view. Of course we put up a playful fight though, first acting all disappointed and then saying “ok, ok, we’ll leave then. Have fun being all boring and stuff without us cool kids” etc. which it took her a while to realise wasn’t serious, heh.
For the rest of the night we had to stop ourselves several times from getting back into it, both among ourselves and with other people. All of it was great though, and made some new Linux geek friends!That’s crazy to imagine a party where you can be kicked out for having a conversation on anything ‘too niche’ especially where the bar is that low.
Irl The Big Bang Theory
As I read through this I thought you were going to say y’all left and went to a bar together.
It’d be a better embellishment of the story.
I think if I were to spend the time analyzing my conversations over the last 6 months I would probably find I spend a lot of time having conversations about why people should explicitly never use a Windows OS.
So at least you would mention Windows in conversation? It’s a win! Thank you, grateful (consult EULA and pay fines if you’re not) customer!
Oh damn, you’re right!
On another note: have you spent any time considering how to install Linux on … literally everything?
Like a potato?
Puppy Linux will just about run on a potato.
and probably like, really fast.
all that sweet potato ram
You mean yam?
I bet the sfs file tucks right under the skin.
Sweet Potato RAM vs. Regular Potato RAM is a controversial topic
Absolutely!
Tell that to apple fans
I thought with them it was more about the entire device than just the OS. People might say they love their mac but nobody is telling friends & family to just install macOS on that old PC that’s losing Microsoft support.
Ah, true. I forgot this for a moment
It’s quite simple; we’re trying to find our lost comrades. I had a magical moment when not one, but two people who joined my group on an MMO were using CachyOS. It’s like meeting your triplets separated at birth.
You only find out if you bring it up, lol.
I thought Linux was a way of life. Not an OS?
Linux is actually a kernel.
THE KERNEL OF TRUTH 🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧
Uhh, it’s GNU/Linux actually
If you wanted people to say the other part you shouldn’t have given the other part a dumb name.
It’s not a dumb name, it’s a recursive acronym. That’s awesome.
I’m willing to recommend Windows 10 to someone who considers “upgrading” to Windows 11.
Windows 7 was peak Windows. It was all downhill from there.
Disagree. It was XP.
Facts
Sloperating systems
Maybe if there were a hundred different Windows 10s, and all of them were really good, we would be recommending Windows 10 distros to each other

















