No it isn’t, Socialism “with Chinese Characteristics” is doing some extremely heavy lifting.
It’s a capitalist state, pretty evidently. The government having state run companies doesn’t negate this. Further, those state run companies are not beholden to their workers, nor the people at large.
Without worker control, that’s not socialism.
Workers unions are functionally illegal (the state run one, most certainly does not count as it doesn’t authorise strikes in almost all circumstances, as far as I’m aware).
Look up China Tobacco, a great example of how just having industries nationalised, doesn’t make something socialist.
China is just as bad as the rest of the capitalist nations, they’re just bad in their own unique ways.
All the cool comrades know that “socialism” in the mould of Stalinist USSR or China isn’t a great model.
Inb4 USA is worse! - nah, they’re both capitalist states. I’m not a “China Bad” believer, much of what we hear in mainstream western media is overblown or inaccurate to manufacture consent for a conflict between us.
The ruling class in all countries simply use the rest of us for their own gain.
True, that’s what’s so infuriating about the term “woke”. Woke is just common-sense empathy, like what used to be the norm in the past. I haven’t changed, it’s y’all that have become fascists.
Yeah, I was a Libertarian myself until the early 2000’s. Not anymore though.
Their anything goes gun stance became, to me, a red line after school shootings became a daily thing in the US. Watching them parade RFK and Donald at their convention in 2024 demonstrated that maybe their principles aren’t exactly as strong as they say they are.
But we’d be better off Johnson had been elected. 100%. Too bad people cared more about Syria than whether or not Americans can eat.
Sure it sounds good in theory, but were any of your little “anarcho-syndicalist” buddies bestowed the blade Excalibur by the Lady of the Lake? Didn’t think so, libtard.
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
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Libertarian communism? Does that mean every business is a CO-OP?
How would you prevent the state from favoring one CO-OP over the other and creating a co-op monopoly by favoritism?
Sorry, not trying to attack you. I’m a radical leftist and libertarian communism is sort of the most Lemmy thing I’ve ever heard.
Communism means the abolition of money, the market, and the state.
Market socialists/mutualists/whatever are not communist. They have different explanations for how they intend to dodge the flaws of markets.
Most anarchists will be communist in their economic views.
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Well, you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
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China doesn’t claim to be communist, “yet”.
No it isn’t, Socialism “with Chinese Characteristics” is doing some extremely heavy lifting.
It’s a capitalist state, pretty evidently. The government having state run companies doesn’t negate this. Further, those state run companies are not beholden to their workers, nor the people at large.
Without worker control, that’s not socialism.
Workers unions are functionally illegal (the state run one, most certainly does not count as it doesn’t authorise strikes in almost all circumstances, as far as I’m aware).
Look up China Tobacco, a great example of how just having industries nationalised, doesn’t make something socialist.
China is just as bad as the rest of the capitalist nations, they’re just bad in their own unique ways.
All the cool comrades know that “socialism” in the mould of Stalinist USSR or China isn’t a great model.
Inb4 USA is worse! - nah, they’re both capitalist states. I’m not a “China Bad” believer, much of what we hear in mainstream western media is overblown or inaccurate to manufacture consent for a conflict between us.
The ruling class in all countries simply use the rest of us for their own gain.
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True, that’s what’s so infuriating about the term “woke”. Woke is just common-sense empathy, like what used to be the norm in the past. I haven’t changed, it’s y’all that have become fascists.
Left libertarian we generally call Anarchist.
People thought academics were socialists during the Vietnam War too
This is nothing new
Yeah, I was a Libertarian myself until the early 2000’s. Not anymore though.
Their anything goes gun stance became, to me, a red line after school shootings became a daily thing in the US. Watching them parade RFK and Donald at their convention in 2024 demonstrated that maybe their principles aren’t exactly as strong as they say they are.
But we’d be better off Johnson had been elected. 100%. Too bad people cared more about Syria than whether or not Americans can eat.
Libertarian commie =/= libertarian
They’re a different kind of weird. lol
Must be. We’re getting way too deep into the identitarian weeds for me. :)
I just say anarcho-communist to make it more obviously different
DENNIS: I told you. We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
ARTHUR: Yes.
DENNIS: But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.
ARTHUR: Yes, I see.
DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs–
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: –but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more–
ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
I mean, unironically a decent framework to start with. Arthur cant handle it because as a monarch it is chaos to him
Sure it sounds good in theory, but were any of your little “anarcho-syndicalist” buddies bestowed the blade Excalibur by the Lady of the Lake? Didn’t think so, libtard.
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Nah, they were bestowed crates of rifles though
Buddy youve gotta realize by now that the LP is just a way for the rich to funnel more wealth
Oh ok so you’re an illiterate dumbass
how radicalized is globalizing the intefada?
very? not much? medium-rare?
It’s fairly radical why do you ask