• Splenetic@lemmy.nz
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    Mom says it’s my turn to blame anyone but the Democrats for losing the world’s easiest election twice

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    Yes, yes - everyone knows Trump is worse. Please fix your corrupt and insane political system

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    I first predicted Biden throwing the election in 2023: https://lemmy.world/post/7717844/5052261

    Then I spent the rest of the time making fun of you delusionals posting these crappy memes:

    You ever notice how both FlyingSquid and PugJesus stopped posting 24/7 to the Political communities despite being the most outspoken for voting Biden/Harris? Have fun in 2028 with Newsom bud.

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    I posted basically the same thing in a similar thread, but since this popped up on my feed I will repost it.

    Your stupid little fake elections dont matter, yankee. Nothing in the world matters less than the kabuki theater contest between your democrats and your republicans. For over a century both your parties have lead campaigns of slaughter and pillage across the world, but now you’re being kicked out of the middle east. Your power is failing, and soon enough you’ll be kicked out of everywhere else too. Your fake parties and fake elections will be your problem and your problem alone. Welcome to the american century of humiliation.

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    “shut up about genocide, I’m trying to talk nonsense here”

    “hmm, no, i can’t think of ONE thing I’d do differently than the 900 year old in the white house”

    “hey look, the Cheneys love us! so do many other republican demons you always hated”

    “wait, why didn’t enough people turn out?”

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    Any real candidate woild have beaten trump in 2024. The dems chose a zionist who ran a rape gulag for trans women. I tried to help its victims heal.

    Any candidate who tried to appeal to any coalitoon, to make any compromise withthe a tual people would have won 2024 in a landslide. Harris did not. Poor shit piggy didnt get its turn :(.

    Any party willung to insult me like that will never again have my support. Especially after the biden2024 campaign.

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    I voted for Kamala. But her weak spine-ass would’ve let Israel do the exact same thing to Palestinians. She said she wouldn’t be any different from Biden, and we know Biden was a huge Zionist.

    Of course though, Democrats will clutch their pearls even to this day saying that it was someone else’s fault as to why she lost. No it fucking wasn’t. Kamala had the MOST support immediately after Biden backed out. She even brought Tim Walz on board who seemed decently progressive at the time. And then Dems started capitulating to the Right. It was sickening to hear at the DNC, “the world’s strongest military”.

    And then just yesterday, the DNC votes to block a resolution condemning dark money, including AIPAC, in elections. Establishment Dems are cancer in my eyes. We know Republicans are evil, so Democrats should be the ideological opposite - yet they aren’t. They let Republicans get away.

    We urgently need Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) in this country so we can finally break free of these horrendous 2 choices. Or we don’t and stochastic terrorism rises because politicians refuse to curtail corporations and people suffer more and more financially.

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    Was it REALLY so fucking impossible to have this?

    So, Dems, get it right the next time please. We can’t afford more of this shit.

    And, fellow leftists, don’t ever let anyone ever make you feel guilty for opposing genocide.

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    Every other day with these same exact divisive bullshit DNC centrist posts. Its almost like its a GOP media company running an ad campaign, releasing them on a steady timer. And yet the actions of the DNC seem to say the same thing so maybe its not.

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    How many times do I have to say it? The party lines are drawn in such a way to distract you from the actual cancer of late stage capitalism. Yeah yeah, “vote blue no matter who”. How about “educate your neighbors no matter who” to get some actual fucking change instead if this ridiculous in-fighting?

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    You’re allowed to hate both you know? The Empire will never put a progressive in charge.

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    Every president in the USA has supported Israel as long as Israel has been a thing, but none of them before Trump let Israel goad them into starting a direct war with Iran.

    Impossible to say definitely, but there’s no reason to believe Kamala Harris would have either.

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      So you have an average normal politician running against literally Hitler. And people vote for literally Hitler.

      And you don’t think the problem is the people voting for literally Hitler?

      Don’t get me wrong, the US voting system is also bad. But that is really, really not the main problem here…

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        IMO the bigger problem is that the “average normal politician” managed to be so bad that voters didn’t feel motivated to vote against Hitler.

        This should have been a slam dunk - and there were literally a number of easy ways to motivate voters, like promising to stop the ongoing genocide the country is funding. But when given the choice between “letting Hitler win” and “stopping the genocide”, Harris and the entire DNC leadership chose to let Hitler win.

        Isn’t that deeply fucked up?

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          It was a slam dunk. I still know trump supporters who think everything negative said about him is a lie. Why did this never happen in human history before (an unrelenting smear campaign running for over a decade against an innocent man)? Meh I dunno something about woke.

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              yeah but she COULD have won retroactively if we browbeat people who already vote blue for the next ten years about it

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                She was! But since a rather large portion of the US public seems to have 0-3 neurons, it’s not enough to be the obvious choice for everyone else.

                Harris and her campaign knew this. They had polls clearly showing that she’s so bad at motivating voters that she’ll likely lose.

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                  No, it was the voters fault that Harris decided to fish for the republican vote by shifting more to the right in her rhetoric. Those stupid people should have voted blue no matter who!

                  empty meme of the guy that puts a branch in the wheel of his bicycle and is laying on the ground holding his leg in the third panel

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            your whole comment is provably false. claming the attack on the 7. was a genocide is laughably false.

            do not forget that Israel has made gaza a concentration camp long before that time.

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              claming the attack on the 7. was a genocide is laughably false.

              I linked a source (Well, a wiki article which itself link sources). You spew bullshit.

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                you linked the wikipedia article. it’s allegations. if you had read it you would first notice that the allegations are about “intent” and genocide. As the power imbalance is laughably.

                The empire long called the rebellion murderes with genocidal intent. When the rebellion hit what they could, the empire killed their own to avoid hostages. The empire then told all that the rebels had murdered babies and made up other lies to make the rebels look bad.

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                  it’s allegations.

                  So are the current allegations against Israel, right?

                  To be more than allegations, there would have to be a ICC judgement in either case, I think?

                  As the power imbalance is laughably.

                  Just because you are laughably weak, it does not mean you can’t do evil.

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                A wiki page listing people who have called it a genocide doesn’t exactly prove that it was one, and regardless the israelis have long been oppressing the people in gaza, including illegally capturing land by force for many years, so them striking back would be less a genocide and more an act of war, a warcrime in this instance as they largely attacked civillians, but so does israel which is why both the leader of hamas and israel are wanted war criminals

                It’s like saying the slave revolts in ancient rome were genocides because the slaves were attacking romans, who else were they supposed to attack? And could you really blame them for striking back at their oppressors?

                Ideally it would have been resolved peacefully but the international community turned a blind eye to what was happening, and israel sure as hell wasn’t about to stop out of the kindness of their heart

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                  It’s not insane, it’s a rhetorical tactic. “OK, fine, Israel is doing a genocide - but they did it to us first!”.

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        Considering how land has more political power than people in the US, the voting system is still a major issue.

        If we had the National Popular Vote for US elections, then more people living in deep blue states would have more reason to show up to vote when their candidate already is going to win by well over double digit points in their state.

        When low population states are overrepresented in Senate and Presidential elections, then we can end up in a ruled by the minority situation.

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          What do you mean? Hitler committed genocide, so Hitler was given the weapons. And Hitler was given the authority for those weapons through a democratic process, by way of average normal politicians (Paul von Hindenburg, specifically).

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            I mean Netanyahu is Hitler and they were giving him weapons. That’s not what normal does.

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        If you had this system in Europe you would not like the results. Best outcome: 200 years of middle of the road conservative shit Christian party

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        Yeah, I agree. If this can ever happen all you can really say is that us culture is cancer.

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      Sadly, similar stuff does happen even when you have more parties.

      In my opinion, what’s happening here is that the policies of the parties do not align with the opinions of the public. If you care about not doing a genocide, there wasn’t a candidate to vote for last cycle. If you care about universal health care, there wasn’t a candidate to vote for. And so on.

      And you can measure this. Research has been carried out into the congruence between policy and public opinion in the US. For example, in the paper Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens, it was found that the impact the average American (as a group) has on policy is miniscule compared to the influence of economic elites. You and I don’t benefit from invading Iran, but the owning class sure does, so that’s what we do. All this is independent of who’s in charge.

      And so now you might rightly theorize that since there are only two parties, the democrats can fully cater to billionaires, as long as they’re less bad than the republicans. And as time goes on they move further and further right, since they really don’t have to care about voters, because the only other party consists of actual demons, and people will vote for them anyway.

      However, you see this effect (the wealthy having a disproportionate amount of influence on policy) in pluralistic systems as well. Norway has about 9 major political parties, yet the study Affluence and Influence in a Social Democracy finds that here too, the rich have an outsized influence. Similar studies exist for other western European countries, most of which (if not all) have more than two major parties.

      So I don’t think the root of the problem is the two party system (although I’m sure it doesn’t help).

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      Yes but more importantly this is what happens when people are so ignorant and uneducated that someone like Trump makes it past a humiliating response to a social media post about him considering a run for president. Then he is a horrible president, killing thousands of citizens through negligence, commits an insurrection, and voters are like “I dunno he’s not that bad. He’s male at least”

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        More importantly, he should have been charged for all the crimes he did in his first term. Shouldn’t have even been able to run from his prison cell, or at least not between all the court cases he’d need to be worrying about.

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          SCOTUS ruled that the POTUS cant be charged with literal crimes while in office, so…yeah.

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            Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that happened after Trump was reelected, meaning there were four whole years of Biden as president where he was never prosecuted.

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              Because he didn’t lose the 2020 election remember, Biden stole it. So therefore he never left office and was covered.

              /s

              Truthfully, I’m not sure why it seemed to be retroactively applied to his first term. Reality is probably because its all fucking corrupt so of course it did.